Modern day foo fighters and St. Elmos fire

I would take slight issue with even that. If the sample image on the site is representative, the news article should have said, “Mexican air force pilots filmed 11 bright lights in the skies…” Making the jump from fuzzy infrared bright spots to actual, physical objects is adding interpretation to the observation.

And the fact that they appeared “to accelerate rapidly and change course suddenly…” is a big hint that they are probably lights or reflections, not objects. Objects, especially large ones, have this little problem with inertia; light does not.

[weekly world news]
Alfred von Schlieffen had secret UFO weapons!
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Now, I am out of the loop as far as the whole UFO thing goes, but doesn’t Richard Dolan (writer of that story) = Nut case?

Are you sugesting something has to be an object to be a UFO?

Webster says

UFO n : an (apparently) flying object whose nature is unknown

I’ve used that definition.

Does anyone know if there’s video of this? I saw it on the news and I immediately thought they were out of focus cars. It looks like it was 2 headlights with 2 smaller lights right below each, like parking lights. Anyone else see that?

No, I’m not really arguing semantics. The term UFO has come to mean anything seen in the sky that can’t be explained at first blush.

But the article said the film captured objects. That remains to be proven. The film – at least the sample on the news page – shows spots of light.

Is this nitpicking? I don’t think so. Spots of light can move as observed, solid objects have a much harder time. Spots of light could be reflections from numerous sources including the plane or camera itself; flying objects that defy gravity require a much more complex explanation (aliens, secret spy craft, etc.). If you are trying to analyze what’s going on, it’s important to stick to the facts.

But spots of reflected light are not news. UFOs, especially ones piloted by LGMs, are, which probably explains the reporting.

Ain’t got a clue. It’s not that far out what he’s saying anyway: US government developing triangle shaped spy splanes in secret. Just look at some of the wacky shapes that have been appearing from the Skunkworks.

Picky Picky Picky :wink: I suppose we could also say that it wasn’t established that they were flying, as they could have been levitating or something else that isn’t exactly the same as flying.

Then I take issue with the plural of LGM.
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46G is about 460m/s^2, which would mean going from 280kph to 1800kph in just about 0.9 seconds, not “a few seconds”. If you do it in 3 seconds you’re pulling about 14G - still impressive and not something that the average person can sustain but if we’re going to talk about aliens and spaceships it’d be good to get our math right.

As far as radar, I wasn’t aware that radar could really tell you much about the shape of an object unless it was pretty big - can a military radar set actually say “That object is a triangle” and “That object is a rectangle”? I can certainly think of things that give radar returns and that can change size & shape (thunderstorms, flocks of birds), but reading that line makes me think you’ve got a radar signal bouncing back with funny results which doesn’t necessarily mean that you can take said results literally.