Modern Warfare 2

Right, and I’m telling you it’s the same way on the console. No need to wave the nose in the air. Infinity Ward built everything up to have this game be great, and it disappointed (me, at least) greatly.

Eh, the bad matchmaking and servers and no custom content and all that stuff I knew about. But the dumbing down of the killstreak stuff was unexpected - I mean it’s just so bad that I don’t see how anyone would like it as it is, or why anyone would think to design it that way. At that point you’re barely playing anything related to the game - you’re playing “put the cursor over the big red square” whackamole, which might as well be an Atari 2600 game. So I speculated - the only reason I can think that they’d make it this way is because they think their target audience is roughly on the level of troglodytes and would actually like this, or the game is so technically shitty (low res, mostly) that you couldn’t reasonably be expected to actually see what you’re shooting at, so instead you shoot at the big red squares.

Well, it’s terrible. Combine these things with someone who actually can see shit, and who has a mouse to control it, and you can get a chopper gunner just playing fast whackamole and killing your entire team over and over in seconds. It can’t be terribly fun for him, because the actual gameplay challenge at hand here is almost below atari 2600 level, and it’s not terribly fun for the people on the ground who get killed over and over by some guy playing easymode. And since the game is so dominated by killstreaks, on some maps/game modes you end up spending half+ of your time being killed this way over and over.

Yes, I don’t think you get it. No one is saying we’re pissed about getting a worse game than the consoles get. We’re complaining about getting the same game that the consoles get, and console games (especially shooters) have always been extremely shitty compared to the PC versions of the same game. We’re getting a game that’s clearly designed for them and all of the things that brings degrades the experience significantly. And it pisses us off because had they just given us roughly the same level of porting that COD4 got, it’d be a pretty great game - because we’d have proper control over the game, no lag, no stupid matchmaking, and an ability to mod out all of the dumb stuff in the game (for instance, lots of servers that removed the giant red squares would spring up fast) and just enjoy the stuff they actually did well.

It’s almost like you believe that it’s impossible to manipulate a video game at a very high level with a controller.

But yeah, it’s a pain in the dick. Hardcore mode is better. You don’t need to rock Stopping Power, and everyone runs Cold Blooded. If you get a Predator missile, you can easily take out your own teammates with it and kill yourself in the process (with the ricochet). In regular modes, silenced sniper rifles are useless at long distances, too. Another reason to run with Hardcore.

The things I bring up would still be dumb on a controller, so my disdain for playing FPS games on controllers is only tangenital. Shooting red squares on a controller has got to be pretty stupid too. But the problem is amplified because of the superior control of the mouse the problem is even worse. And you’re like the only person in the world who says they’re just as good, probably because you’ve never actually seen the difference compared. I mean - why do you think most console shooters have auto-aim and no PC game I’ve ever seen has it enabled by default, and only a few even have that option at all (and certainly not for multiplayer), mostly to activate on the easiest game mode available?

You can only run hardcore with a few game modes, which is another stupid limitation of this game vs cod4, so that’s only a partial solution.

It’s amazing to me how big a step back this game is from Call of Duty 4 and 5. It’s like they either didn’t pay attention to what made 4 good and wanted to just pull out all advances Treyarch made just because they were Treyarch.

Maybe. No one seems to like Treyarch (you are actually the only person I’ve heard to praise them) and I’ve never played COD5, but I know COD7 is planning to have at least dedicated servers, so as far as I’m concerned Treyarch is better than IW at this point and I may give one of their games a shot.

But between this and other things, I’m having a hard time convincing myself to give a cent to activision. I didn’t think anyone would be able to out-evil EA, but I’m pretty sure Bobby Kotick spends a portion of that MW2 money to buy puppies for every one of activisions employees, then forces them to stomp them to death while he watches.

There is/was an awful lot of hate for Treyarch. They got shit for doing a large copy-and-paste job on Call of Duty 5, but their multiplayer maps were better, their weapon balance was better (due in part to better maps), they had some semblance of a party system, they kept track of some stats, and their weapons even had more variation. Infinity Ward’s newest offering has some pretty bad maps, there’s nothing interesting about the weapons at all, they’ve got the worst lobby system in multiplayer gaming, it takes a while to even find a game if you form what could be loosely called a “party”, and every time someone finds a glitch, their fix creates more problems.

The move from Call of Duty 3 to 4 was a pretty big jump. 4 to 5 was a much smaller jump. 5 to 6 was a lateral move, at best. What’s Infinity Ward’s big innovation this time around? The virtual sticker collection?

If anyone happens to be in the market for a new video card, and wants the game, I happened to catch this deal on slickdeals.net. You can get this 5850 with a high quality cooler, stock overclocks, and MW2 bundled (the description doesn’t mention it for some reason, but it’s in the “what’s included” picture and the model number matches on the website for the bundle) for $280 (use promo code VGA462). I wasn’t gonna go out of my way to get mw2, but this is the cheapest 5850 you can get now anyway so it’s a free bonus. There’s also this one, same card but bundled with dirt 2 instead for $270. Dirt 2 is a better game, but I already have it.

Well due to repeated issues with crappy hosts and a seeming never ending stream of hackers, I have all but given up on MW2 mulitplayer…

Does Bad Company 2 have decent and hack free mulitplayer? I need some way to shoot people…

Bad Company 2 probably would’ve been GOTY if SC2 didn’t hit.

Yes, BC2 has good multiplayer, and I haven’t seen any hackers. Its biggest fault is not being BF3, but it’s very good. Better than MW2.