Monty, Would You Please Step Into My Office?

I agree the statement was terribly distasteful/disturbing (that puts it mildly, but I can’t think of the word I’m looking for).

By the time I had read through the threads I felt the need to have a discussion with Monty (which has yet to happen… he hasn’t seen fit to address me in this thread, but rather to sit back and watch everyone else do the work for him)…

I digress…

I picked the first quote I ran across when I went back looking for a quote. My error. There were so many I could have chosen from, yes, there were others that were more appropriate.

I saw it fit in with the pattern, but you are right. Given the context, it was not the best example. I’m sorry.

Kathy

Okay, I’m really confused now.

Rico and Kathy are married? Why is Kathy responding to people’s posts in the middle of their posts, in red, instead of using the quote function like everybody else? Why is Kathy responding to her own husband’s post like that? Can’t she just talk to him?

Why is Rico hijacking this thread to rant about Mormons?

Why is she putting “kathy” in red now? “Red kathy” means something? Is it like “redrum”?

Can I have some tapioca? It’s the sort of thing you never think to cook for yourself, but when some shows up, you want some…

When I responded to your post earlier, I submitted to quickly.

I think you have offered wise advice here and will take your words of wisdom to heart. Thank you, Tom, for reminding me that when emotions are talking, the choice of words are not always the best!

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I love your doper name!
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Kathy

Yes - for almost 2 years now.

She likes to be different.

We did talk about it - but apparently she wanted to share. Sharing is a good thing.

Because it’s there.

You figured it out. Now we’re going to have to yhtakder you.

If you share. Sharing is a good thing.

:smiley:

Tune In Tomorrow!

I haven’t talked to you in this thread, Kathy, becuase the pitting here is silly. You did a silly thing. Not only was the pitting itself silly, but it wasn’t cool either, as NaSultainne pointed out.

You say you’re concerned about me. This pitting proves otherwise, IMHO. After all, I’ve always left my e-mail address available. Had I not done that, two friends I’ve gained here–vanilla and gobear–would probably not be friends now. (At least, I view them as friends & I hope they view me as one also.) If you were so concerned about me, you could very easily have sent an e-mail. But, no, you had to make a, shall we say, rather lame pitting. I don’t know if this is the first time you’ve pitted another poster, and actually hope it is. Maybe you’ll learn from your mistakes; said mistakes posters other than I have mentioned already.

You want to talk about posting history? Ask someone else about your selective quoting of my posts without showing what they were in response to. I won’t discuss it at all with you because I think you’re old enough and mature enough to recognize that what you did was, in fact, selective quoting.

Want my opinion of why you pitted me? Here it is: my opinion is that you’re peeved that I told you to go blow (actually, IIRC, I told you that you could go join CrazyCatLady in going blowing) after you suggested I get an enema; i.e., an injection of liquid through the rectum. I saw nothing from me that prompted such a response, and therefore saw this pitting as lame. {Aside: I did like the Earned Rant Average comment from Mojo and am still waiting on the rest of the stat abbreviations.} And you’re questioning my age? As to how long I’ve been a member of the church: It’s irrelevant. I’m pretty sure that I may have either mentioned how long or at least given enough clues. Feel free to do a site search for the answer. While you’re doing that, read all the posts you come across, to include those of other posters. I suggest you do that as an exercise in putting things in context. Length of membership has no bearing on knowledge of church doctrine or practice. There is one individual, Jan Schipps (sp?), who is not a member and seems to me to be the most knowledgeable person alive on that issue.

To the General Public: Yes, I have little, if any, tolerance for bigoted statements. I hold this site’s motto in high esteem: “Fighting Ignorance.” Bigotry is rooted in both ignorance and hatred. I do not demand that a particular site be on my mythical approved list. What I expect, because I am neither stupid nor a child, is to be presented with something that is not a one-sided, bigoted-agenda-driven questionable site. I am not unaware of the fact that my church has had certain issues in its history. Since I shan’t lie about them, I would appreciate those discussing those issues with me also not telling lies about them. That’s only fair. I hold to the same policy in other things: I know some about the Quran and Islam, some about Buddhism, some about Judaism, and a good deal about certain aspects of the US Military. I make the same sort of postings on those issues as I do on the issues related to the LDS. AND I try to have reputable sources, preferably internet sites, to enlighten, educate, share my love of the field concerned, and, if need be, respond to a bigoted statement with the correct information so as to not leave an obvious falsehood as a stumbling block for someone else. When I’m wrong: convince me! You expect me to convince you, so convince me dagnabbit!

Back to you, Kathy: You might recall that I wished luck on the most recent “Ask the Mormon” thread. I still do. And, I think, you might find out that my policy regarding statements about the Church is a very good one to follow. Or maybe you won’t.

p.s. I recognize the fact that I do silly things sometimes also.

Well, since you ask:

RBI = Rants Butted Into

Ehhh…I dunno. Monty’s posts are always interesting. He does seem to have a bit of a hot head, and it does seem more likely to manifest itself when the subject is LDS and related material; on the other hand, there tends to be some thought behind his posts even when there is heat. If he were not knowledgeable regarding that of which he rants, I’d have little patience, but he seems to have a good knowledge base to share with us. If he blows up whenever we needle or mock, well, that’s his problem, not mine :slight_smile:

Besides, why would we want a tolerant and nonjudgmental Mormon in our midst?

GR&D

One question, Monty. If cadolphin were a member of your ward and had insulted you similarly in person, would you have still told her to “go blow” or did that outburst (and others I’ve read) simply stem from sitting behind a monitor and posting on this board? I’m curious, because I have never in my experience as a LDS heard a member insult a Brother or Sister in such a manner. In fact, while I’m sure most LDS’s would appreciate your efforts to dispel ignorance, many would be appalled at the language you use to convey your (usually justified) indignation. Do you ever think before you post WWMBT (what would my Bishop think)?

So, the bit about ht enema is common in your area, Romola?

If the op wanted to tell us that Monty has a temper he failed to surprise us. Unfortunately for many of us, Monty usually has a point also.

The problem is Monty that if you just worked a bit on your temper you would be a more efficient soldier in your battle.

Well, Estilicon; it’s been mentioned a number of times that you should work on facts and logic. I still fail to see you doing that.

How did you get that impression, Monty? She insulted you and I didn’t think it was funny. You insulted her and some of the things you have said have been outside the construct of what most people consider stereotypical LDS behavior. It’s not a criticism, just an observation.

I had some dialog with Monty in the Smart thread, and the snipped quote goes along with my impression of Monty from that interaction.

My involvement in the thread was in response to Monty’s refutation of what he considered to be an argument based on an asserted authoritative knowledge, but what I took to be speculation based on limited experience. I told him as such and that he should be more tactful in responding.

Our exchange was never resolved, as we each made our points, and our perceptions of the post in dispute remained in contrast. I believed that the post in question was based on ignorance, and as such, the appropriate response should be one providing information to correct the mistaken impression, whereas he believed it was a bigoted statement deserving the response he gave.

After my last post in response to him, he tried to move the discussion into an already started Pit thread. I didn’t respond to his post in the Pit thread as he added nothing to the discussion other than calling me a moron. As I was arguing for diplomacy in the original thread, I had no interest in getting into a name-calling thread.

On a positive note, I think that our discussion in the Smart thread was one of the primary reasons why the “Ask the Mormon” thread was started. I share Monty’s goal of fighting ignorance, but in some cases I disagree with his methods and his interpretation of others’ statements.

Some people just have TOO much time on their hands.

I like Monty, but I think he comes of as being extremely abrasive-perhaps not intending to, but he does. Even our goddess Lynn has said as much.

And I wasn’t the only one in that particular thread to tell her she might be mistaken, Guin.

Perhaps you’ve a chip on your shoulder of late?

You didn’t say mistaken, you called her a liar, a bigot, etc.

Lynn? I don’t ever recall calling Lynn a liar & a bigot.

No, I mean Nichol in the Mormon wedding thread, because she didn’t understand.

There’s a difference between being ignorant of something and being an actual bigot.