Yep! Mobile banking!
Which reminds me…Heshang has NO access to the GV. I can’t even SEE anything in there, let alone access it.
My recollection from running that quest recently is that sometimes you’ll find the NPCs dead and the mob that killed them on top of them. They won’t respawn until the mob that killed them is dead, and then they pop right up and you’re good to go.
They’re supposed to be monks, but they act like hunters feigning dead. 
So yeah, you may have to tangle with an elite to free them to start your quest. Or you can leave and come back at another time, after which they may have reset (or been reset by another player.)
I was lucky last time out: The only mob “camping” them was the last non-elite of a large crowd, so he was easy to clear out and reset the NPCs.
It appears to me that they phase in as soon as you get the quest, but they aggro any nearby baddies and can die if they pick the wrong one (or the wrong crowd). By the time you find them, they may already be dead, and you have to “rescue” them by killing whatever bug did them in.
If you find them alive, odds are good you’ll have to help them fight whatever critters they pissed off, and if it’s one of the elite Commander bugs, that can be challenging unless you’ve already outleveled or outgeared the quest.
After that, they’ll start from wherever they are to their first quest objective NPC (of course aggroing every mob in the way, so you’ll probably have a good 2-3 fights before you get there).
Yeah. The quest can be painful and frustrating, especially if you don’t have much self-healing. And the NPCs don’t wait for nothin.
Just chiming in to agree with everyone else on that quest Quasi. Once I get the students I had no trouble at all. Got a little annoying fighting the bugs when running from Elite to Elite but I never had a health problem on my monk.
Also the end of this quest chain is super awesome. I was saying “wow this is awesome” as I was playing it.
Better than working with holes in your holes, like me! HAW-HAW-HAW!:D;)
No access to the GV? I’ll fix that for you in a bit.
Rik, yeah, I’ll be on Saturday for sure.
Thanks, Drunky and gnoitall for the help, too!
I’ll have to try that mobile banking tonight and thanks jay and Rik for getting us there!
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OMG! I did not know that and I just now tried it. So cute!
How does one “squee”? Do you write it with a slash in front?
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Hey hey! How did you do the twins? I was so not prepared for that battle - I didn’t kill the Guardians before the room and then I didn’t know one twin was immune to magic and the other to melee. I died, and when I rezzed and went back, the door was sealed so I couldn’t attempt again.
For BWL, remember to dismiss your pet at the start, you can’t control Chromaggus with it out. I had a bit of trouble until someone pointed out using the Exhilaration ability, which will heal him up to 100%.
Molten Core is dead simple, no trouble there. I was just running through the raid, picking up all the adds and finally decided I should probably stop and kill stuff since I aggroed a boss and he was part of the enemy entourage.
I’m currently on my quest for Mr. Bigglesworth. I’m 4/12 for Raiding With Leashes. I haven’t attempted Naxx yet, that’s the one that scares me. Soloing Wrath raids? Eeep! The highest level raid I’ve solo’ed is Tempest Keep.
Speaking of Tempest Keep: fuck status effects! Hate hate hate hate hate! :mad:
No, you do it in real life, like this:
http://mister-rik.com/hosted/squeeee.jpg
(Yeah, I posted that a couple years ago in the Cata thread…)
Okay, well I have the bear highlighted in green, typed /squee, but nothing’s happening. I’ll go back and try the hug.
ETA: Okay, that did it. Thanks, Rik!
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I hit level 85 with my Paladin last week.
Wow, the Cataclysm quests give so much more gold. I’ve been selling stuff on the auction house to raise gold, but even after finally buying artisan riding for 4000 gold I made 3000 back in a few weeks. I spent a few hundred gold getting some level 85 equipment–I still had a bunch of old stuff.
But I’ve only done the Vashj’r and Mount Hyjal quests, and there are still a bunch of Cataclysm areas I haven’t even touched. I suppose I should stay level 85 and clean out cataclysm before buying Pandaria. Even at level 85 the Cataclysm quests are pretty easy. I barely ever even heal myself.
You can /hug or /love her to get the bamboo shoot. The horde has a baby panda too at the Panda camp in Ogrimmar next to the fishing trainers.
Hey, I’ve been leveling a new paladin too!
My god, I can’t believe how much Outland and Northrend have been nerfed. Or is it that stat scaling is so different? My first toon through Outland and Northrend was my Ret paladin Eilysanna, back when WotLK was current (also got a Fire mage and Arms warrior, and a second Ret paladin on the Horde side to 80 during WotLK), and most recently I leveled a Shadow priest through there. But this is the first time I’ve leveled a toon entirely in a non-DPS spec — Aigerlinn is a Protection paladin — and good grief, she’s just mowing through the mobs. Hell, when she was still a level 69 in Outland she was only about 500 hit points shy of the “basic” Northrend level 80 mob. I recently ran into a level 75 monk who was mowing down level 75 elites (this was before my prot pally was to level 75 - I was on my lvl 90 rogue at the time), and she said “[whatever spec she was] is OP - I’m soloing Wrath dungeons.” So now I’m tempted to see if I can solo Wrath normal dungeons as a Prot pally.
This is the first time I’ve really enjoyed playing in Prot spec. I’ve tried off-speccing my Ret pallies into Prot, but haven’t liked it. This kind of confirms that, at least for me, I need to play a spec from level 1 to really get a feel for it. Otherwise I run into the same problem I have with DKs: too many abilities all at once and I can’t figure out how to use them correctly.
Anyway, I’m looking forward to getting this paladin into Cataclysm content. For revenge. See, she’s an Herbalist. During Cata, my Fire mage was my herbalist, and I got so incredibly frustrated with the way Blizz decided that almost every damn herb in Cata zones needed to be camped by a hostile mob. So I’m going to enjoy herring (goddam autocorrect! Quit turning my h-e-r-b-i-n-g into “herring”!) in plate armor with a defensive class. In the meantime, I think I may actually turn off her XP before level 80 and queue her as a tank in LFD, and finally get around to learning to perform that role. I ran Wrath dungeons many, many times as DPS on both my Ret paladin and Fire mage, so I’m very familiar with those dungeons, and I figure they would be a good starting point. I guess I could have started in TBC dungeons, but I’ve only ever soloed those at level 85+ and have no idea how they work at the appropriate levels (having started in Wrath, by the time I got my first character to Outland everybody was busy raiding Naxx and there weren’t a lot of people in Outland).
No doubt. My rogue was the first character I leveled entirely during Cataclysm, from 1 to 85. I made her a miner and skinner. Thanks to the “old world” and Cataclysm quests handing out perfectly acceptable leveling gear, removing any need she had to buy expensive gear from the AH, between quest reward gold and selling her ore and leather on the AH she was my wealthiest character by the time I took a break from the game in Feb. 2012, with 35k+ gold.
Agreed here – I can’t remember the last time I dropped any money on the AH to actually buy gear; just relying on quest rewards post-Cataclysm has been more than adequate.
The one exception is my Pandarian monk that I’m slowly leveling. Good weapons for him seem to be few and far between - and almost never handed out as quest rewards. I’ve had to purchase the occasional axe, mace, or hand weapon from the AH as he’s been adventuring.
Aaaaand that didn’t work so well. Aigerlinn hit 76 and I decided to see how she’d do in Utgarde Keep (normal, of course) by herself. She muscled through the first few rooms of trash with no difficulty, but once Prince Keleseth started Ice Prisoning her, it was game over without teammates to break the Ice Prisons.
Yeah, you have to accommodate the mechanics curiousities of the encounter. 1) clear the guardians outside the room. (This I do routinely, since I like loot, and up to that point the red Qiraji tank hadn’t dropped yet.) 2) Unless you massively pew-pew, plan on the fight going a while, and you taking a bit more damage than normal regen can cover. Spirit Bond did enough healing that neither the owl nor I needed to heal. 3) Macros are your friend. I set the physical immune guy as focus target and replaced my normal Arcane Shot and Serpent Sting buttons with macros that cast @focus rather than just attacking my main target… which works well with 4) pull and target the magic-immune one; most pet and hunter attacks are physical. The majority of your DPS will be on him. Once the physical-immune one comes close enough, as long as you’re facing right, he’ll get pelted by Arcane Shots and Serpent Stings as you roll through them in rotation without even thinking about it, and that’s extra damage in their combined pool. 5) keep Widow Venom (hunter Mortal Strike) on the main target; it’ll reduce the inevitable boss heals and shorten the fight.
The fight was easy with a little planning.
Again, preparation. (BTW, Razorgore, not Chromaggus.) I still died the first two attempts; the first because I didn’t realize how little time you really have between pulling the initial mobs as you enter, and grabbing control of Razorgore. I actually took time to loot! Then Razorgore got up, and the bastard camped on top of the mind-control device, so I couldn’t MC him, and then he conflagrated me, and the room filled with mobs, and he died (my pet attacked him, as well as the mobs), and then the room nuked me.
The second death was simply not noticing two eggs and killing Razorgore before it was safe. Again, the room nuked me.
Yeah, Exhilaration is a great way to run Razorgore to the very limit of his endurance while breaking eggs (either timer or health) and still be in the fight for the next MC, and also aggroing the entire room to yourself to allow him more endurance for the next MC. Very good strat.
Yup. No strat really matters. I just cruise through systematically, blasting pack by pack and boss by boss. “Pulling everything and AoEing them all at once” isn’t very practical for hunters. I’m in no hurry, and I can clear it pretty quick. (Cleared MC, BWL, and AQ20 in one Friday evening.)
I’m at 7/12 for that achievement. I’ve gotten all the pets available from MC and AQ40. 4 of the remaining 5 are in Naxx, but I’m not overly worried. I’ve soloed the first few parts of Spider Wing in Naxx 10. Easy up to Maexxna; that fight needs some study and prep, so I died there due to inadequate preparation. I’ll get it next time, and the Arachnophobia achieve too. Maybe I’ll try the “Hunter tanking” tactic, since she doesn’t web wrap the MT. She probably doesn’t hurt enough to kill me through Spirit Bond healing, and if I bring my Spirit Owl pet on Ferocity spec, I can get decent DPS out of it while having a backup “Oh shit” heal available.
TK always gave me fits solo, and the MC/disorient stuff in the Kael fight would still be nasty even to a 90… and without a melee weapon slot, hunters can’t put up the “Don’t MC me bro!” aura without more weapon-swapping madness that I want to put up with. I don’t need much from TK except the phoenix mount, so I’m not really very enthusiastic about going back.
IMO the best class to solo Kael’thas is a Windwalker or Brewmaster Monk. I’ve been doing it on my two 90 monks (one Horde, one Alliance) for awhile now and he give me very little trouble. The trick is to save Death Touch to one-shot Capernia the second time she comes up (it’s a little tricky, you have to spam it or she gets her disorient off) but once she’s down it’s easy. I use Brewmaster on my lower-geared monk (low-level LFR) and Windwalker on my higher-geared one (high-level LFR and several Valor pieces)–the Windwalker rips him to shreds now.
I’ve had a lot of trouble soloing him on my Blood DK, though–he can’t kill Capernia fast enough and the double disorients between her and Kael basically keep me stunlocked through the whole fight. I’ve succeeded but it was very long and frustrating. I prefer to bring along a friend and deal with the MC when I do it on that toon.
Actually, Deterrence no longer requires a melee weapon, or any weapon of any kind. This was supposed to be fixed during early Cataclysm (before Hunter’s lost the melee weapon slot), but it was bugged in that being Disarmed still prevented its use. For Mists of Pandaria it’s no longer an issue at all
I wasn’t specifically thinking about Deterrence. I was considering the Staff of Disintegration’s on-use buff to make you immune to disorientation effects, which are used aplenty in Phases 3 and 4 of the Kael’thas fight. Chain-stunning can kill even an overgeared 90, and it’s a frustrating death because it can take so long.
I wonder if the “Beastmaster, hide behind a column, let your pet kill Kael” is the only hunter solo strategy practical if you have to wield the staff to avoid being chain disoriented.
Ah, sorry, my mistake.