MoP-ing up after the Cataclysm: Updated WoW General Discussion 8/22/12

I am on Defias Bortherhood EU, and thanks yes I did know about the interact with target/mouseover bondngs but I get too impatient!

My release experience:

• 7fps trying to get quest
• See cool cut scene, get quest and get on airship
• Another cut scene, lag
• Get first quest in Pandaria
• Try to do it, crash wow
• Can’t relog

Not exactly a success!

Grats!

First impression of monk: where did I put my notes on “how to write a castsequence macro”?

First impression of having to work on launch day and with a cold the size of Nebraska: le suckage!

First impression of a MoP dungeon: I’m reasonably sure all that silly stuff is intended to be a reference to tons of far-eastern media and completely sure that dwarven ale is much better behaved! And that gun which dropped from the last boss looks weird enough to be a gnomish design (my hunter is very happy with it).

I haven’t bought the expansion yet. Partly because my finances are a bit grim at the moment, and partly because I just want to avoid the rush. Cata’s launch was my first time being there on day one of an expansion, and I just didn’t find the experience fun at all. Those insane mob respawn rates the first week or two pretty much put me off my mage for good.

Same here. If I remember correctly, for all three expansions I’ve just waited for a few days to let the first wave of eager players to clear out of the new starting zones.

I know I’m not going to be the first to level 90 with any of my toons, so why rush?

Having said that of course, I’m sure I’ll be logging in immediately after work on Wednesday to see what I can see. I’d do it today, but I’ve got something else on my scheduled for after work.

I did roll up a cute little pandaren mage named Xioahui:

http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/wow/wow_xioahui.jpeg

(you can roll a pandaren without the expansion, you just can’t roll a monk)

Aww, crap. Since no one is ever around on SWTOR anymore, it’s only a matter of time before I get sucked back into WoW. My wife is not going to be happy about this.

Say, who in the BDL has invite privileges these days? I have an orc rogue on Cairne that I’ve been trying to get a ginvite for, but when I’m on my other BDL toons there’s either nobody else on, the only other person on can’t invite, or the person who’s on who I suspect can invite isn’t seeing my messages.

OK, I’m a new player to WOW. My six year old sits next to me when we adventure, she wants to click on the mineral nodes to collect them.

Anyway, some questions about the auction house that I can’t understand.

Why would anyone buy a stack of wool cloth for 10 gold? I understand that long term players have tons of gold, and would rather buy the materials they need even for outrageous prices than spend 10 seconds farming it themselves. That makes sense. But what in the world do they use wool cloth for? Bandages? But you can’t sell bandages for even a fraction of the price of cloth. Heck, you can’t sell bandages period.

And it seems there’s little point in listing consumables except on the weekend. Stacks of stone and cloth get snapped up on the weekend, and just rot during weekdays.

Most of the crappy green items I sell are ground up by enchanters and used as fertillizer for their tomatoes, right?

Why do people post dozens of the same item for the same price? I understand when you level up your professions you crank out dozens of the same item. But you’re not going to sell 20 netherweave bags in a day, so why bother listing more than 3 or 4?

And what’s up with people posting outrageous prices for gear? I mean, I’ve listed all kinds of mediocre green gear for rock bottom prices, and even then it usually doesn’t sell. And then you see the exact same gear that I tried to sell for 1 gold listed further down for 100 gold. Anybody who really really must have a Twilight Cape of the Monkey is going to buy it from me for 1 gold. So why bother posting the silly priced stuff? I understand there are particular items with low level requirements that PvPers will pay top dollar for for their twinked characters. But that isn’t this, this is normal average crap for tens or hundreds of gold. Are they just hoping someone clicks “buy it now” by mistake? Or are they just idiots?

I’ve seen stacks of wool going for upwards of 20g or more at times. Here’s one thing I’ve picked up after playing WoW for a few years and leveling several different crafting professions, all crafting professions are money sinks. Generally speaking, you will spent more money raising your crafting skills to max than you could selling anything you crafted. So the people who are buying those wool cloths include tailors and engineers who need them for their exploding sheep so they can raise their crafting skills.

You might make money back with crafting skills with end game items. I’m sure my enchanter/tailor ultimately made more money than he invested in his crafting skills over a long period of time. Ditto from my black smith and alchemist. I’m pretty sure engineering was just a money sink though.

I find that wool usually sells like hotcakes but many of the other cloths can take a while to sell. Stones are hit or miss. Sometimes I buy crappy green items because I realize I’m wearing a piece of gear I got 20 levels ago and it was never replaced for some reason.

Wool cloth is used to level the Tailoring profession.

Weekend vs. weekday will vary from server to server.

Yes, most greens are disenchanted for enchanting mats, which are then used to level the enchanting profession or to make end-game enchants for gear.

Often multiples are listed because there are add-ons that will do it painlessly. Just keep re-listing and you may get lucky and have someone rolling two new characters snatch up 10 of your bags.

As to the last, it could be either idiocy or a hope of other’s idiocy. But it’s also possible they have an auction house add-on that has that as a default for green gear of that level.

And you really underestimate exactly how swimming in gold max level characters are. Sure, most of us aren’t rich and have trouble affording things like gems, but 10-20g for wool? Cheap. 10g is about one max level daily quest. I assure you I can complete a single daily in much less time than it takes to get 20 wool from mob drops – even if I can massacre swaths of mobs at the same time at my level. Especially since you can usually teleport to daily areas and it takes travel time to get to areas where mobs will drop silk or wool or what have you.

I also feel guilty about farming lowbie mobs on my max-level characters. I always worry that I’m “stealing” kills from nearby questing lowbies. I’d rather let them do the farming and get the XP that goes with it, and then give them my money for the stuff they farm up.

Well, I understand the part about how a couple gold doesn’t mean much to a long term player, and it’s faster to earn 10 gold doing high level things than it is to farm Westfall for 20 wool. That makes sense. But what does your 85th level character want wool for, and why is wool almost as expensive as silk or mageweave? Or do players farm gold with their main characters, then use that gold to buy materials to level up their alt character’s professions? But even then it seems like your alt character would level past the need for wool in about five minutes and would need higher materials more.

In other words, I can wrap my head around 20x wool for 10G. But then silk is 11G and mageweave is 12G. Why is there a market for such a low level material? Or is it just that there are many more players farming high level mobs that drop high level mats than there are players farming for low level mats? And so even though you need 100 wool and 300 silk and 500 mageweave, there’s very little wool available because no one wants to farm for it.

A lot of people don’t level crafting professions until max level – focusing on herbalism and mining for leveling due to filthy lucre (and since the gold influx at max level makes levelling a profession more viable). This leads to a little bit of an interesting scenario where low level toons set the supply, which keeps prices low-ish because they don’t need much gold, but max level characters set demand, and for them 10g is a drop in the bucket so everything tends to gravitate towards 10-20g because that’s what people are willing to pay and that’s enough for a low level character to coast for a while. So most of it just comes from level 85 characters leveling tailoring or engineering or what have you for the first time – which is much more common than a level 10 character leveling it as they go.

In addition, if you set the price too low, people will buy all your stuff out just to put it back up with a huge markup to 10g or so for a profit, because people are proven to pay that much if they have to.

Muwahahaha!

I can still /ginvite and get you guys up to Hellhounds. Helped out Jarryn and Makig last night.

I rolled up a new Panda named Huell. Let’s try to keep Huell happy…ok? So, if you see Huell asking for a /ginvite, please make him happy.

I didn’t consider two gathering professions at once so you can hoover up twice as many mats and just auction them. And then when you’re 85th level you can switch to crafting and just buy whatever mats you want with your sacks and sacks of gold.

Created my panda monk, Schnockerpoo.

Tiavet had an alt who was able to invite my rogue :slight_smile:

Yup. Most of my characters have either Skinning + Mining, or Skinning + Herbalism. Keeps them in all the gold they need while leveling.

Well, I’m happy to announce my 7th level 85 character! Jabloo, my troll hunter on Cairne, dinged tonight. Cool confluence of events: He was questing in Deepholm, specifically to get to the quest to kill Glop so that he could get the Sporeshot bow (love the look of that thing) … and he actually dinged 85 when he killed Glop. So he got his bow and got the hell out of Deepholm :smiley:

Jabloo also had 4000 Honor Points saved up, so as soon as he hit 85 he was able to buy himself the Cataclysmic Gladiator’s Chain Helm and the Cataclysmic Gladiator’s Chain Spaulders.

Next up: My night elf priest is sitting at level 82, so she’ll soon be my 8th 85. She also has 4000 HP saved up.

Tonight was kind of fun - I was playing on Cairne exclusively and got to see the “Realm First Level 90” announcements for paladin, warrior, shaman, druid, warlock, and priest. I was also a bit boggled when I spotted a level 83 pandaren monk in Deepholm :eek:

And when you have altitis, you can have several toons mining and sending the results to that metal-sink known as your blacksmith. Blacksmithing recipes can be insane both for mats and to acquire; I think it is the profession that’s got more special-vendored recipes (recipes you need reputation or a quest or… to be able to buy).

Why do I have a blacksmith at all? Completitis, 'cos if it was for logic it would be hell to the no.

That one probably didn’t level through, it was someone taking advantage of the invite a friend instaboost to 80. The first level-85 monk in my realm did, to much eyerolling in general channels.

I know others have answered this but I’ll add that some people at max level switch professions if they think that a profession perk is better (though they are mostly normalised now to be honest) so will follow a Tailoring Levelling Guide, if you follow that link you will see that 135 Wool Cloth required. I will often just buy up Wool to level first aid on a low level alt, I have also bought a lot of low level cloth to level enchanting on my tailor as it was cheaper to craft gear then disenchant it than to buy the enchanting materials (mats).

Pandaria is beautiful I really enjoyed levelling last night even though it was busy. Nice to be using abilities on my main, like Health Funnel or drain life, that I had neglected as useless, keeping downtime a minimum though and you use the toolkit. Took my farmer for a run out too and in 30 minutes had picked up lots of ore and herbs and woke up to over 2,000G from Auctions on my bank alt, not bad at all.