More proof the smoking NAZI's knowing what's best for you.

No, but I will, on occasion, tell self-pitying jerks to sod off.

Don’t worry, I don’t pounce on people for a typo - I do it all the time too :slight_smile:

On the other hand, I am not a self pitying jerk, and will not sod off. I suppose that since you are now entering the realm of personal insult, your not going to be surprised when you start receiving some in return? Be prepared, I know it’s coming. I usually let someone else get the ball rolling.

It’s simple. Nobody tells me what to do, unless there is some compelling and valid reason. I can’t rob banks, murder people, topple the govenment, juggle cats, eat live puppies, etc. I can live with this sort of restriction. But when it comes into the area of my personal business and causes no harm to anyone (except possibly myself) then it is nobody else’s business.

And just to piss you off a bit more, nazinazinazinazinazinazinazinazinazinazinazinazinazinazinazinazinazi

There is a compelling, valid reason not to allow people to sell deadly addictive candy-flavored drugs.

I was mostly talking to duffer, who marred what might have been a legitimate thread with the N word and a good deal of hystrionics. You’ve added a bit to the hystrionics, but you didn’t introduce the metaphor are not the target of my “sod off.”

Dammit, in that case, my mistake. I apologize, as I thought it was directed at me. :smack:

The N word? What does a derogatory term for people of African descent have to do with this thread? It does not help your argument to use a term that has shifted in meaning to decry a shift in the meaning of another word.

Ah, I’m not quite sure if you’re kidding or not. I realized the possible confusion after I made the post.

I also suppose you are right that Nazi is now just a vulgar word for inflexible, authoritarian person. I stand by my position that its use (in this sense) shows something of the education, intelligence, and character of the user, just as the other N word does when used by anyone of any color except maybe Chris Rock.

I was pointing out that most smokers, when smoking alone, will respect the rights of others. This tends to completely goes out the window when there is 3 or more, or you’re the majority.

It’s more like a deliberately “out there” exaggeration, to show anger, or ridicule. Seinfeld got a lot of mileage out of the Soup Nazi. An authoritarian, inflexible shopkeeper, who “punished” anyone who displeased him by screaming “No soup for you!”. By the way, the original, real Soup Nazi has started selling his soup nationwide. I missed out on Billy Beer (collectible now), maybe I can cash in on this one :wink:

One lesson I’ve learnt in life;

Don’t waste time arguing with a dependant addict about their drug. They will say anything to justify it, and ignore all to the contrary, because that’s what addicts do.

Nicotine is one of the most addictive of drugs.

I can’t (and won’t) make their excuses for them. Just don’t paint every last one of us with the same brush. Sound fair?

That was to this :smack:

Just in case it wasn’t obvious, I do not in reality welcome “business” of this sort.

It sickens me to see the volume of misery produced by smoking - the hard and abbreviated road ahead for people only in their 40s and 50s (and sometimes even younger) who will be dying way ahead of their time. And while I usually don’t get to see them in person in my job, it is not difficult to put a face to victims of smoking-induced cancer, like the frightened man in his early 40s who I saw for a needle aspiration procedure, just before his scheduled laryngectomy. What a thing to look forward to- at best a few years of speaking with an artificial, externally amlified voice box before the cancer comes back and kills you.

Sure, some folks drink, smoke, overeast and live to be 80. Some win big bucks in Vegas.

Most don’t.
And thanks to cricetus for his comments about abuse of the term “Nazi”.

Okay, so alcohol, coffee and soda are on the same list of “to be eradicated” along with cigarettes then, yes?

I’ve heard on this board that 90% of lung cancer patients are lifetime smokers, and that 10% of lifetime smokers get lung cancer.

Are these numbers correct, or at least in the ballpark?

Citing higher cancer rates amongst Black Americans, legislators are also considering laws to outlaw Menthol Cigarettes.

Congessman N. Trusive was quoted as saying, " I believe I know what’s best for my constituency and will offer an amendment to the flavored cigarette bill that outlaws the sale of menthol cigarettes. Not only do we want our children to be free from the temptation of vanilla, toffee and (gasp) bourbon flavored tobacco products, it’s our duty to eliminate brands such as Kool, Newport and Salem that have enslaved far too of our many African American citizens"

hehheh

I got where you were coming from. My point was simply that you have no reason to try to mislead anybody about the dangers of smoking, which seems to be what some people in this thread are saying - that all the doomsayers about the dangers of tobacco have an agenda to artificially emphasize the dangers of smoking. I did not mean to imply that a Pathologist (or any doctor) would encourage smoking to get more business.

SteveG1, I avoid smoke as much as I can, but as I walk into a building, I have to walk through the masses of smokers and their toxic air to get in. When I briskly walk to work in the morning and I’m breathing deeply from exercise, I don’t think it’s healthy for me to be breathing in the smoke from the smoker walking in front of me, but there’s no way for me to not breathe in his smoke, when we are both on the same narrow path, going the same way. You can rationalize all you want, but as long as you exhale your smoke, other people are going to breathe it in, and I have no problem declaring my dislike of that.

Except in this case those being “different, incorrect, or inconvenient” are tattooing the numbers on their own arms and forcing the deadly gas down their own throats.

Still, that’s a very minor distinction. I mean, killing yourself voluntarially while society does their best to keep you from taking down others with you is the same as being forcibly seperated and exterminated. No significant difference at all.

Enjoy,
Steven, the Jack-Booted Brownshirt

They might be correct, but they are deceptive in terms of risk to smokers.

From medicinenet.com:

“A landmark study published last year in the British Medical Journal found that cigarette smokers die an average of 10 years sooner than nonsmokers. At least half, and possibly up to two-thirds, of people who smoke from youth on are eventually killed by their habit, a quarter of them in middle age, the study reported.”

The risk to smokers, apart from lung cancer (and the long list of heightened susceptibility to other cancers as listed above) also includes chronic debilitating and potentially fatal obstructive lung disease, coronary artery disease (close to a third of coronary heart disease deaths are thought to be due to smoking) and peptic ulcer.

The five-year survival rate for newly diagnosed lung cancer is about 15% (it’s 63% for colon cancer, 88% for breast cancer).

The risks of drinking coffee and soda hardly compare.

This was originally supposed to be about government intruding on yet another aspect of our private lives concerning a fully legal product. Again, though, the anti-smoking nuts (oh no! Another n word!) come storming in and hijack the thread into an argument on health impact and whining about how they don’t like the smell.

I’ll just avoid my own thread as it’s devolved into something completely unrelated to what the OP was supposed to be about.