Telegraphy was still experimental in 1777. France had a system of semaphore towers up and running from 1792 but the electronic telegraph we’re more familiar with wasn’t implemented until the mid 19th-century. And Bell patented his telephone in 1876.
We now return you to our regular mocking of idiots.
The cop has arrested the driver. Now he has to figure out what to do with the car. (Can’t just leave it there, I assume.) If she has a DL, she can drive it away. But if she doesn’t, it’s going to have to be towed.
In the linked video, he actually tells her it’s going to be towed, and he can’t let her stay in the vehicle while this happens.
Right, the cop can’t just let an unlicensed driver take an unregistered vehicle and drive away. He tells her that he’s going to tow it and that she needs to step out. She finally agrees to get out of the car but says she’s going to walk home (“that house over there” is presumably their house) and he says that she’s not free to leave while he’s conducting his investigation.
Out of curiosity, what happens to the passengers in situations like this? Assuming she had fully cooperated and gotten out of the car, does he then offer her a ride home and place her in the patrol car? Does he call another car to come and take her home? Does he leave her by the side of the road to fend for herself?
Yes.
That compilation is hilarious (other than the crying child).
“I’m not driving, I’m traveling. Traveling is not illegal.” This is said by a guy who was driving a car. I’d love to know the “legal theory” behind that.
urrmmm… does that mean “all of the above”?
To answer my own question; apparently he’s talking about this:
So I suppose if we’re not free people than we’re the servants of free people? Or something. It’s largely incoherent nonsense.
I don’t know why I’m bothering but: the license isn’t to travel on the road; it’s to operate the vehicle. You are free to travel on the road without a license in a vehicle, but you need the license if you are the operator of the vehicle. In fact, my license says “Operator’s License”, not “Driver’s License”.
Note: Used in at least three states to demand.
No mention of whether or not it was SUCCESSFULLY used.
By the same lie by omission, they can use the same logic with their other specious claims. “Arguments about gold fringed flags have been used in N states”. Yes, and never successfully, but if you’re selling snake oil, the pitch is about your sales figures, not whether or not it actually works. You’re simply leading the customer to believe that if you sold a million bottles, it obviously works.
This is where autonomous cars will be interesting.
Can an unlicensed driver (like one of these sovcit nutjobs) claim they’re not operating the vehicle, just travelling as a passenger, because the car is driving itself?
I imagine one possible regulatory response will be that one of the occupants of the car will have to be the licensed operator “of record” to pin legal responsibility for the operation of the car. And probably obligated to sit in a “driver’s seat” with manual controls.
Anyway, that’s a rabbit trail. I hope car automation doesn’t give these crazies any further procedural ammunition.
They currently have no procedural ammunition. They just think they do.
And self-driving googlemobiles will give them at least twice that amount!
Yes, but are they willing to create Joinder with the car?
Mornington Crescent!
You didn’t pass Piccadilly Circus first. Bad form, that.
As a passenger in a car that was in an accident that resulted in both car and driver being taken away, I can tell you that being left by the side of the road to fend for oneself is definitely an option. The policeman helpfully suggested one hitch a ride.
He didn’t offer you a ride? A policeman suggested hitchhiking?
There was this incident in San Luis Obispo County, about 20(?) years ago.
A guy was released from the jail there. IIRC, it was not from California Men’s Colony (a state prison on the outskirts of town), but from the county jail (near the prison, also on the outskirts of town). Their practice is to release people right about midnight. They just shoo them out the door, leaving them by the side of the semi-rural county road (State Highway 1 actually) at midnight.
So the guy started walking along the road toward town, and almost immediately got hit by a car and killed.
So that made local headlines and some amount of local outrage, and the prison officials began to talk about how maybe they shouldn’t turn people out at midnight, and how they maybe shouldn’t just leave them by the side of the road to fend for themselves.
But I don’t know how it finally turned out. One never reads about any follow-up in the newspapers. Mostly likely, it just blew over and nothing happened. The more things change, the more things stay the same.
It’s used by squatters to keep the cops from kicking them out of a vacant house they’ve moved into. That way they have an official looking paper that makes police reluctant to remove them, and they tell the owner that it’s a civil matter. I’ve heard of some of these people trying to invoke some obscure, turn-of-the-19th-century treaty between the U.S. and one of the Barbary states to argue that the law doesn’t apply to them.
How stupid are these people that they can’t even do a few minutes of research to put their lunacy in the proper historical context? As others have pointed out, the AoC never applied to California. Surely they could find something in Spanish colonial law, or even early 19th century Mexican law that they could misinterpret to fit their needs. Simply saying that you don’t recognize the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo sounds marginally less crazy that what Screechy is saying in the video.
Here’s a few videos of SC’s in court, facing Judge John Hurley in Broward County FL. If you’re not familiar with Judge Hurley, I highly recommend you search his name on YouTube and make some popcorn. These are just bail hearings, but give a good idea of how well these defendants fare in a courtroom.
This guy sounds like he didn’t pay the $45 for the program
Another one from a trial court in Tennessee. I imagine the trial of the two in the video went something like this.