Husker Du -Don’t Want To Know If You Are Lonely
Big Black - Kerosene
Bauhaus - Dark Entries
Bauhaus - Bela Lugis’s dead
Dead Kennedys - Holiday in Cambodia
Sonic Youth - Schizophrenia
Sonic Youth - Starpower
Heh, I really should go to bed and not muck about on video services.
In a similar vain: “drug me” by the dead kennedys.
Heh, I really should go to bed.
Sisters of Mercy - Alice
Guess I’m not really being punk enough here. Well there’s always X-ray Specs with the timeless classic “Oh Bondage, up Yours!”
And a great band from Edinburgh The Shop Assistants. Their best song was Safety Net though, but that was only a long-deleted 7" release twenty odd years ago. I’ve got an MP3 copy that I’m happy to share to anyone who PMs me.
And here’s The Jesus and Mary Chain: Never Understand, and this is also the Mary Chain You Trip Me Up. Perhaps they listened to White Light/White Heat a bit too much.
Whee I’m pissed.
Here’s Swans getting all het up about Raping a Slave.
Swans were very loud, Leftfield were even louder (A, B, but My Bloody Valentine were the loudest. sometimes quiet though
And sometimes other-worldly http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fomiTa3Ryko&NR=1
Germs: Forming. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV539g9qVWs
John Frusciante (RHCP) covering Forming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWPdb-W5mcE
This is punk. Halfway through the first video, someone climbs on stage, smashes the mike into the singer’s face, then the band jumps him.
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Alright Struan, that’s it. You’re Scottish, you drink good booze, you like Doctor Who AND the Birthday Party - you are officially my first Doper crush.
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Though I don’t know if I’d consider the Birthday Party punk, per se. In style, certainly, in music, I dunno.
Next you’ll tell me you’re familiar with the Boys Next Door as well.
Topic? Uh, yeah…I got nothin’. The mister is the punk expert. Now if you want most goth songs of all time…
There’s the timing thing. Many of us in this thread were thinking of original punk. Original punk, as I sort of alluded to before, didn’t fully realize until later. It was built upon by many great and not-so-great artists. When I listen to Never Mind The Bollocks these days, I’m struck by how not-really-punk the music is, but with Johnny Rotten singing, it just oozes punk attitude. Same with the Ramones first album; it seems kind of tame when viewed through the lens of all that followed, but in 1976, nobody had a record like that out. Those two band really were pioneers. Go look at interviews with The Clash The Jam, Wire, Buzzcocks, et al, and to a man, they will tell you they were inspired by the Pistols and/or Ramones. Plenty of people have been harder, faster, more profane, whatever, but the Pistols and Ramones were the seeds of that.
Sure, there are bands so freaking hard it can make your ears bleed, but You Really Got Me was the hardest, nastiest, filthiest riff known to man in 1965. I think the same way about the Sex Pistols and the Ramones, circa 1976.
I tend to have somewhat myopic tastes at times, but I can see the punk in just about everything. That’s what draws me in, that, hey, fuck you aspect that makes punk, and for that matter, rock n roll, what it is. It’s all good, even when it’s bad.
Yea, half of his are goth punk (descendants of The Damned), some more are shoegazers (Jesus and Mary Chain (yes, they are), My Bloody Valentine), some hardcore/emo (Husker Du), and everything else 2nd or 3rd or nth wave punk.
So let’s get this straight: what is punk? Fuck you attitude? Original punk bands? I can give my opinion but I’m not the OP
NailBunny, we shall speak of Mr. Tennant’s hair, Ms. Minogue’s boots and the true story behind the Titanic incident in 12 days time. (I’ll allow you a decent interval to catch up!)
There’s punk in the English sense (Sex Pistols, Clash, Buzzcocks, etc), and more extreme stuff (Crass, Flux of Pink Indians, Poisen Girls)
There’s mainstream american punk (X, Ramones, etc)
There’s American Hardcore as epitomized by this film. I haven’t seen it yet, but my old thrash buddies said it captures this era. DOA, Circle Jerks, pre-Henry Black Flag, Minor Threat and many more. Most people in this crowd thought the Dead Kennedy’s were sell outs.
For the most american Hardcore song, not sure if there is one. Wasted by the Circle Jerks, code Blue by TSOL, The Prisoner by DOA, 12XU by Minor Threat would be a few contenders.
How about Straight Edge by Minor Threat? Well, I guess, I don’t know. But that song is the shortest milestone in any music genre you care to list.
Ach I’m drunk. Leave me alone - I was just trawling through Youtube for stuff I like. I acknowledge the not-very-on-topicness.
You are wrong about the Mary Chain being shoegazers though. Shoegaze was a term invented by the NME to describe the Oxford scene and variants thereof a good few years after Psychocandy came out. I’ll just pretend you didn’t type the “Descendants of The Damned” thing in the hope that you can retain a shred of credibility. 
Yea, thus me saying “yes, they are”. All the Brit kids copied Pyschocandy and everyone but the media denied they were ever involved in shoegazing, so Jesus and Mary Chain are by extension of being wall of sound from production/guitar pedals/effects.
And… The Damned were the first goth band, from what I remember. I spoke of them earlier. The Damned. So goth bands, Nick Cave included, were influenced by The Damned, although Nick Cave was producing music at or around the same time and I couldn’t be arsed to find out exactly what’s what.
I would play “Give It Back” by The Dickies, or “No More Heroes” by The Stranglers.
Or maybe “C30, C60, C90, Go!” by Bow Wow Wow.
[OT] You and me are gonna have to give up our coverted Black Spokesperson pins if we keep posting in threads like this.[/OT]
Anything by the Talking Heads or even the Ramones would be an all time punk song.
That’s like a pop song, hardly punk.
Oh, I’m very late to the punk party…
The Clash - Career Opportunities and White Riot
Dead Kennedys - California Uberalles and Well Paid Scientist
Minor Threat - Betray and I Don’t Want to Hear It
Black Fag - Fix Me and American Waste
Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop and Beat on the Brat
Just to name a few. I started to list the enitre Dead Kennedys catalog and had to start over.
I still consider the Sex Pistols to be Punk, if only for the fact that Johnny Rotten had attitude. And because God Save the Queen rocks. And I love Liar.
Well, the Mary Chain certainly gazed at their shoes or the back of the room when playing live in the early days. They were influenced very heavily by Phil Spector’s “wall of sound” production (and The Velvet Underground, obviously). I guess by your retrofitting criteria that The Ronettes were shoe-gazers?
And The Damned were never the originators of goth, FFS. Just because Dave Vanian styled his hair in the fashion of Lily Munster means dick - they were a bunch of pub rockers who recorded some punky tracks and eventually released Grimly Fiendish to the embarrassment of all. You have to look to Bauhaus or Siouxsie and the Banshees (with a side helping of Joy Division) to find the roots of goth.