The unmanned midair refueling from Stealth had more passion, too. (Actually, it was more like some weird rape scene, wasn’t it?)
Hell, I nearly forgot…it’s not a movie, or even a “romance,” but did anyone else catch that last episode of “Ghost in the Shell” on Saturday night?
If you did, you know the scene I’m thinking of.
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One of those situations where you cast your eyes heavenward and say, “I mean…just…seriously, what the Hell, man?”
That was “creepy” only because Albert’s Jewish mother kept meddling in it. And what’s remarkable about that?
As a nerd, I found that less creepy than inspiring.
And somehow, I think most Dopers would agree, for some reason or other.
I haven’t seen it, and the reviews were not kind. I think I will probably watch Dr. Strangelove many more times before ever watching Stealth.
I predict this is going to end up as a seperate thread in IMHO sooner or later
There was a discussion about it some time ago. IIRC, most of the people didn’t think it was a big deal.
That could have so easily been off-the-chart creepy, but it was played perfectly. You just want to give your heart to Natalie Portman in that movie.
Sixteen Candles. Michael Anthony Hall sheds his virginity with a girl who’s drunk to the point of unconsciousness, and videotapes it. Am I missing any mitigating circumstances here?
Disney’s Tarzan. When he replaces his stepfather as king of the apes, Tarzan inherits dad’s harem. The movie glosses over that part, but that’s how an alpha male ape stays in position.
Ok, could you explain why you think Harry Met Sally qualifies? IIRC, they share a ride to New York after graduating, stay friends for like 10 years or thereabouts, they have sex one night, she thinks it’s serious, he doesn’t, they fight and on New Year’s Eve Billy Crystal realises that Meg Ryan is the one.
Where’s the disturbing part? Mind you, the last time I watched this was when it first came out on video so I may have forgotten something. Please enlighten me. Thanks. 
Sixteen Candles Michael Anthony Hall sheds his virginity with a girl who’s drunk to the point of unconsciousness, and videotapes it. Am I missing any mitigating circumstances here?
Exactly what I wanted to comment on, except I was more grossed out for her waking up in the arms of a wimpy geek. Of course seeing Anthony Michael Hall today, I sure wouldn’t kick him out of bed for wearing his headgear! 
[QUOTE=WOOKINPANUBOf course seeing Anthony Michael Hall today, I sure wouldn’t kick him out of bed for wearing his headgear! :p[/QUOTE]
Where’s EC when you… yada yada yada.
Eve, thank you for mentioning Bringing Up Baby. I have never enjoyed that movie because I can’t stand to see Katharine Hepburn acting like such an idiot.
Actually, there are a lot of screwball comedies I just can’t get my head around. How about Carole Lombard in My Man Godfrey, featuring the most dysfunctional family on Park Avenue? It ends with her and William Powell getting married apparently almost against his will. “Hold still, darling, this’ll only take a minute…”
I agree with Renault’s conquests being icky. Sex with women who are desperate to get an exit visa is questionable, at best.
But I strongly disagree with this characterization of Ilsa. She didn’t “bounce” back and forth. In Paris, she was with Rick. She fell in love with him, believing herself a widow. She left Paris with no chance to tell Rick what had happened or to get any closure at all. In Casablanca, she’s with Victor, but still has feelings for Rick. Her decision in the end (well, really, HIS decision in the end) was more in line with duty than with doing what they wanted. To trivialize Ilsa’s confusion – confusion that arose through no fault of hers – is to miss the whole point of the film.
Plus, Lombard’s character in that film is borderline retarded–how long is William Powell going to find her charming?
Then, there are the doormat martyr, passive/aggressive women of An Affair to Remember (1957) and Random Harvest (1942). Deborah Kerr doesn’t tell love-of-her-life Cary Grant she’s been hit by a car because it might upset him! Greer Garson doesn’t tell her amnesiac husband Ronald Colman that they’re married because it might upset him! Idiots.
The 1994 flick “The Professional.” That skeevy interaction between assassin Leon (Jean Reno) and rebelious 12-year-old Mathilda, played by Natalie Portman.
Ick raised to the 9th power.
I’m being a little bombastic here. I know that the Rick/Elsa/Victor relationship is supposed to be a metaphor for isolationism versus involvement in the war, and that the resulting decision represents the noble sacrifice ("…the problems of three people don’t amount to a hill of beans…") over detached self-interest (“I stick my neck out for no one,”) but just inside the story, Ilsa strikes me as being…well, not too bright. If I were Bogie I’d give her the heave and not be sorry to have that dead weight hanging around my neck. Give me herones played by Lauren Bacall or Grace Kelly any day over Ilsa Lund.
It’s a great movie, by the way, but in spite of it’s manifest problems. The supporting cast (Peter Lorre, Syndey Greenstreet, Conrad Veldt, the staff at Ricks, and of course, Claude Rains) and the great, quoatable dialog (“We musn’t underestimate American blundering. I was with them when they blundered into Berlin in 1918,”) make the film. Being the cynic that I am, though, I prefer the anti-Casablanca, The Third Man, which has it’s own screwed up love triangle…but it’s one with which I can personally relate.
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Geex, I can’t believe I forgot this. It was only 11 days ago that it was all over the cable. How about The Quiet Man with John Wayne proving his love for Maureen O’Hara by dragging her home from the train station. Just as yucky is the reprise of the sequence in McClintock
I can see what you and Eve are getting at, but I really enjoy this movie so I’m willing to cut it a lot of slack. I guess I can see past the tantrums and manipulations and still enjoy the open-hearted eccentricity. And I still think that’s the funniest closing line in movie history.
oh my gosh - saorise posted the ones I was going to mention. I think “McClintock” is the where John Wayne spanks her in front of the whole town. I saw that as a young girl and it almost made me physically ill. In the movie it’s played “cute.”