I don’t think they actually had sex. She wanted to, or was at least expecting it to happen, but he (being 12 years old), was completely oblivious. It’s been a long time since I saw the movie, but I remember him asking her if he could be “on top,” then getting onto the top bunk when she said yes. If I remember correctly, she had a kind of disappointed look on her face.
Besides, it was supposed to be a family movie, I think, so I doubt they would have put something like that in there, even if he wasn’t really 12 years old.
I haven’t seen that since I was a little kid. What was so creepy about it?
To put that in perspective: I’ve read, but can’t find a cite, that when Alice Liddell – the model of Alice in the novels of Lewis Carroll/Charles Dodgson – came of age, Dodgson, who had known her from childhood, approached her parents and asked for her hand in marriage. He was rebuffed – not because he was too old for her (20 years her senior), but because he was too lowborn for her. But by standards of the time there was nothing indecent about his suit.
I remember being upset by Bus Stop, possibly because I figured it would the usual Marilyn Monroe silliness.
Instead there’s this kid who’s, like, 19 years old and has never been off the ranch, and he goes to The Big City and sees MM in a revue or something and decides right then and there that he Loves her and is a-gonna Marry her by God and haul her off to the ranch where she can spend the rest of her days cooking his meals and having his babies and washing his socks. This is not quite what she had in mind, although she would like to get out of showbiz. She doesn’t quite stand up to him, unfortunately, and there follows quite a lot of bullying on his part.
I kept wanting her to dump him already, because he’s tremendously immature and possibly potentially violent. Maybe somehow casting MM in the role was a mistake – too gorgeous, too sexy, in what was originally a gritty stage play. Maybe her character is meant to be more ordinary-looking.
I was put off by “There’s Something About Mary”.
The more boyfriends she had the less the romances worked for me. I kept wanting to wrn the guy away from her rather than hope they would win her affections.
OMG, Bus Stop! What a horrible, horrible situation, and everyone around poor Marilyn Monroe smiles and winks as this bumpkin takes over her life. Yikes!
The Goldie Hawn movie, Overboard. Another skeevy stalker dude lying to a woman, and falling in love, so it’s all okay. :rolleyes:
While it’s not a movie, I want to share my hate for the anime Don’t Leave Me Alone, Daisy. Now anime has a lot of geek fantasy stories where the borderline stalker geek gets the girl of his dreams after doing something stupid/brilliant. That’s what I thought this was going to be when I got it.
Silly me. While it is about a geek, there’s nothing borderline about his stalker tendencies. I don’t remember much, but I remember very clearly that he spent all his time with the girl (whom he’d tricked or kidnapped into spending time with him) calling her “Daisy,” instead of her name. When she complained it wasn’t her name, he told her it was her name. The other name was just a mistake. (shuddering) I did not finish the series to see how it came out. When this unstable character was revealed to have a pet nuclear armed cruise missile on top of his continuing creepiness, I just couldn’t keep watching.
I first saw Sweet Hostage when I was in my twenties. It’s an offbeat romance in which Martin Sheen abducts Linda Blair and holds her prisoner in a cabin; she gradually falls in love with him. I just loved this movie!
Thirty years later, I saw Sweet Hostage again. It was like a totally different movie. Somehow the idea of being kidnapped by a stalker doesn’t seem so romantic to me anymore.
Yeah, Jane Austen is full of stories of quasi-siblings or quasi-parent-substitute types being considered suitable matches. In Mansfield Park, Fanny Price’s perfect match is Edmund Bertram, who is not only her first cousin, but basically her brother – they grew up in the same household from a pretty young age.
There’s an example of how the Lewis Carroll situation was viewed in the Edwardian era from the Jeeves and Wooster stories. Madeleine Bassett, whom Bertie wants desperately to avoid marrying, eventually weds the 8th Earl of Sidcup (a/k/a Sir Roderick Spode). The situation is explained that Spode knew Madeleine from “when she was so high” and had always loved her. The implication is that the adult Spode was in love with a child, and he married her when she came of age. There is no implication that there’s anything creepy about this. It is presented as something that is considered very fairy-tale-ishly romantic.
Bringing Up Baby. Katharine Hepburn’s character is a borderline psychotic stalker, and Cary Grant’s is terrified if her. I never “got” his suddenly falling in love with her, I think she just bullied him into it, and it will be months before she manages to get both of them killed.
Bringing Up Baby. Katharine Hepburn’s character is a borderline psychotic stalker, and Cary Grant’s is terrified if her. I never “got” his suddenly falling in love with her, I think she just bullied him into it, and it will be months before she manages to get both of them killed.
Borderline? The woman is certifiable. She’s crazier than Mary of Scotland. Cary Grant’s character should run away from her faster than from a houseful of serial killers.
What about Some Like It Hot, in which the protagonists are basically two con men, one of whom toys with Monroe’s affections (and utilizes her weaknesses) while the other tricks and old, lonely man into thinking he’s an eligable woman. A funny movie…until after the credits roll. At least in The Apartment, the creeps actually come off as being creepy.
I’m not sure it qualifies as a relationship, but the ending of Revenge Of The Nerds is pretty queasy: nerd screws jock’s girlfriend by pretending to be jock in costume. When he reveals his true identity, instead of calling the cops she is touched and delighted because the sex was better than with her boyfriend. I’m pretty sure that would qualify as rape, actually.
Frances Folsom grew up calling her father’s longtime friend/business partner, who bought her her first pram, “Uncle Grovey”. He married her when he was president and a 49 year old bachelor and she was a 22 year old deb. Raised a few eyebrows, but the marriage was longlasting and fruitful (though there are allegations of spousal abuse by him).