Movies that Time forgot

I think I’ve written about this before – movies that I used to see on TV all the time, but which disappeared into oblivion.

In this case I’m thinking about the horrible, cheap horror and monster films from the 1950s that used to be the staple of “horror host” shows. And, in particular, WPIX’s Chiller Theater on channel 11 in Ne York in the 1960s and early 1970s. The REAL early ones, when the show opened with a montage of scenes from these very films, not the later one with the stop-motion animated six-fingered hand. This one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17AHdNvrk5o

A few of thos movies are well-known and you can see them on streaming services or DVD, like Plan Nine from Outer Space or Killer from Space. But most of these flicks seem gone forever. I never saw them broadcast on cable TV, or on VHS, or on DVDs, or on current streaming. And yet I thought all those venues were inexhaustible maws simply aching for cheap content to fill the time and sales figures.

Movies like:

The Cape Canaveral Monsters – aliens take over corpse bodies, plan nine-like, in order to mess with our space program. They’re stopped by hot-rodding teenagers who build hydrogen bomb using plastic belts (really!)

Voodoo Island – Boris Karloff slumming it in a movie about an island with zombies and man- (or at least child-) eating plants

Attack of the Fifty Foot Woman – People still remember thos one because it had one of the greatest movie posters of all time:

The movie couldn’t hope to live up to this – the special effects are woefully sub-par even for a 1950s cheapie like this. The backgrounds keep bleeding through the images of the giant man and woman. The spaceship is basically a dot of light. The giant rubber prop hand is obviously a giant rubber prop hand. The remakes and parodies (The Daryl Hannah 1993 TV-movie, attach of the 50 fot cheerleader, Attack of the 50 foot Centerfold. Heck, even the contemporary parody The forty foot Bride of Candy Rock – Lou Costello’s last film) had better effects. Directed by Nathan Juran, who had directed The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad and Jack the Giant Killer.

The Four Skulls of Jonathan Drake

The Neanderthal Man and Monster on the Campus , which feel like the same film.

Giant from the Unknown

The Cyclops – Bert I Gordon movie in Cinemascope, but still with rotten effects. The makeup, though, was pretty impressive, and super-creepy to me as a kid. It’s in the opening montage linked to above. The film had Lon Chaney, Jr., but the highlight is Duncan Parkin’s Cyclops. He only made two movies, and they were both Bert I. Gordon movies in which he played a one-eyed, mentally challenged bald monster who dies at the end (the other was War of the Colossal Beast). He was definitely typecast.

The Ape Man - Bela Lugosi in a cheap movie about a scientist who plays with hormone extracts from apes. Curiously, it’s got the same premise as The Ape, which starred Boris Karloff as the scientist (but which was never on Chiller Theater). It’s rooted in what was actual research at the time – using extracts from apes to try to cure polio.

Plan Nine from Outer Space – arguably the Gold Standard of bad 1950s fantastic cinema. It’s bad, but at least it’s entertainingly bad.

The Black Sleep – People who say Bela Lugosi couldn’t find work in the 1950s overlook films like this, which also had Tor Johnson (from Plan Nine) and a definitely slumming John Carradine.

The Manster – a Japanese-American co-production about a Japanese mad scientist and his experiments on people. He injects an American businessman with a serum that causes him to grow an eye on his should, that eventually becomes a second head. This film probably influenced the 1989 film How to get Ahead in Advertising (really!)

Killers from Space – Peter Graves long before Mission: Impossible as a test pilot who observes an atomic bomb test and gets kidnapped by aliens. MST3K shoulda done this one. They didn’t, but The Film Crew did.

The Pit and the Pendulum with Vincent Price. Set in a 16th century spanish castle with a mysterious murder, ghost and violent deaths. This was shown regularly when I was a kid, not seen it in years. Vincent was really creepy scary in his prime.

The Pit and the Pendulum is far from a horrible, cheap horror and monster films, it is well regarded with a high Tomato Score of 89%.

Also, come every Halloween TCM or someone else plays it again.



There was also Creature Features, I think locally it was on WOR channel 9 in the NYC market.

They had movies like:
Tarantula (1955) A giant guess what?

The Giant Claw (1957) Nope, not a crab, but a giant alien bird? Bigger than a Battleship? Really crappy special effect? .Trailer

Isn’t Tim Burton trying to do a re-make of Attack of the Fifty Foot Woman, with Margot Robbie?

Most of the crappy old monster films I’ve seen were via MST3K or similar, like The Giant Gila Monster (1959).

I was going to mention crappy newer monster film Q (1982) about a Quetzelcoatlus monster living in the Chrysler Building and eating New Yorkers (somehow unnoticed). I saw it on television at some point and found it quite stupid (although not as stupid as its tagline “It’s name is Quetzalcoatl… just call it Q, that’s all you’ll have time to say before it tears you apart!” which implies you’re somehow going to spell out the name). Michael Moriarty and David Carradine star.

And yet somehow it’s earned a 72% positive rating on RT, so I dunno…

Aside from the low-budget monster movies, the main movie I remember seeing as a kid that has mostly disappeared is The Long Ships (1964). The two things that everyone remembers: They’re looking for a giant golden bell (The Mother of Voices), and, enemies of the Moor (Sidney Poitier) are forced to ‘ride the steel mare.’ IYKYK.

Another is the 1959 remake of The Blue Angel. It used to air rather frequently as filler material on Sunday afternoons and late nights. It wasn’t until I was in my 30s that I saw the original.

I always wondered where Sam Raimi got this idea from, when in Army of Darkness Ash swallows one of his mini-clones, and it starts growing out of his shoulder, beginning as a single eye, then a head, then finally a separate body.

I wouldn’t exactly call it “forgotten,” but Airheads used to air constantly on Comedy Central and is now available to watch on no streaming services whatsoever.

Agreed – Pit and the Pendulum is one of Roger Corman’s AIP Edgar Allen Poe flicks with Vincent Price. I’ve got them all on DVD – they’re not hard to find, and they do show up occasionally (Not all Corman Poe films had Price, by the way, and Price appeared in some Poe films that had nothing to do with Corman.)

Tarantula is, I agree, rarely shown. It had a bigger budget than Bert I. Gordon’s Earth vs. the Giant Spider. It also had Leo G. Carroll and – reportedly – a young Clint Eastwood as the pilot that napalms the bug. Pretty good flick, all things considered.

The Giant Claw is a spectacularly bad film, all because of the super-crappy effects, which embarassed the actors,and rightly so. This is a great movie to riff on. I’m amazed MST3K never did this one. (The only good effects in the film are the ones they stole from Ray Harryhausen’s Earth vs. the Flying Saucers)

Creature Features played on WNEW channel 5 in New York when I was a kid (WWOR Channel 9 had Supernatural Theater and Million Dollar Movie. None of these had Horror Hosts)

I love this flick, as I like most “cultural clash” movies. I don’t recall another Vikings + Middle Eastern People film until The 13th Warrior.

Suprisingly, The Long Ships is based on a novel that practically considered a national epic of Sweden, Franz. G. Bengtsson’s Red Orm (also called The Long Ships). It was published in two parts in 1941 and 1945, and was once the most widely-read book in Sweden. I read it in English translation from a copy that was published as a tie-in to the movie. It’s really good. The movie is a loose adaptation of part of the first part.

Richard Widmark, Sidney Poitier, a mystery, and a huge bell. Exotic tortures (“riding the steel mare”) – what’s not to like. The movie’s intro and titles were done in a splashy style by Maurice Binder, better known for doing the title sequences for James Bond movies. When I put this on (Of course I have copy) my wife listened to it briefly and scornfully said “Is that supposed to be Viking music?” Well, no, but look at Ladyhawke.

It’s considered a “Cult Film”, and has a cadre of devoted followers. It has its own chapter in the book/magazine Re/Search #10 – Incredibly Strange Films.

For a low-budget film, it’s not that bad, especially considering that the stop-motion scenes (which are very well done) were shot after the rest of the movie, which made it difficult to properly integrate them into the movie.

It’d be interesting if he did. But the original is still not easy to come by. That’ll probably change if Burton does remake it.

A lot of these used to show up on hosted ‘creature features’ - USA Up all night, Elvira’s Movie Macabre, local tv stations with their own ‘horror hosts’ (we had two, dearly beloved). Commander USA on TBS back in the 80’s showed some doozies I’ve never seen again, but not all junk. A lot of the more obscure Hammer horror movies, Captain Kronos, Twins of Evil, and Simon, King of the Witches. Currently Svengali, syndicated Saturday night show, features a lot of this kind of movie. Attack of the 50 Foot Woman has been shown several times, as has Creature From the Black Lagoon, the Amazing Colossal Man, and several Roger Corman EAP movies with Vincent Price. Occasional Hammer horror movies, too.

Nevermind, not relevant to OP.

Yeah, my point was that these showed up on Chiller Theater and similar horror-hosted shows. So i’d sometimes see them on Monstervision on TNT later on. I didn’t see Svengoolie before he showed up on MeTV, so I don’t know what he showed, but he’s generally showing a higher class product these days - the Universal horor films from the 30s and 40s, more recent films with real budgets – and fewer of the poverty-row low budget cheapies like Voodoo Island.

Interesting point, by the way – the standard history is that horror hosts started showing up when Columbia’s Screen Gems TV subsidiary released its Shock! package of mainly Universal horror films to TV in 1957, and Shock II a year later ( Shock Theater - Wikipedia )

But when I saw the Universal horror films on TV in the 1960s they didn’t have horror hosts! The movies were simply shown on Creature Feature or whatever without an introduction or hosting.

The movies I saw with a host (Zacherley, to be specific) were on Chiller Theater, and the movies were typically the ones I list in the OP. Zacherley would not just do the “bumpers” surrounding commercials – he’d cut himself into the movies themselves (he had done this on the late movie on WABC in New York a year or two earlier, and on a Philadelphia station – as “Roland” – before that) But he wasn’t hosting Frankenstein or Dracula, at least not on Chiller Theater.

I saw the Universal films on WNEW’s (channel 5) Creature Feature. On WWOR’s (Channel 9) Million Dollar movie I saw

King Kong

Carnival of Lost Souls

The Crawling Eye

The Giant Behemoth

…. among others.

It seems to me that old sci-fi and horror films aren’t really forgotten, thanks to mystery science theater and the continuing popularity of the genre, and our cultural love of “so bad it’s good”.
The real forgotten films are the run of the mill melodramas and romances that were churned out fast and cheap by the studio machine. People still watch “The deadly Mantis” and “ From hell it came”, if only for laughs. Nobody remembers (for example) “The bullfighter and the lady” (1951, Robert Stack, Joy Page), even though it was nominated for an Oscar.

TCM has been a pretty good source of some oddball monster/horror movies. This month, they’re showcasing Roger Corman films on Friday nights. Tonight (4/10) they have The Masque of the Red Death with Vincent Price, and two low budget Peter Fonda b&w films. Last week they had The Beast With a Million Eyes, another Corman film that, despite its obviously low budget, hammy acting, and minimal special effects, had an interesting alien invasion story.

TCM had dozens of schlockey films around Halloween. I recorded most of them then, and just now I am almost done watching them all. And as the OP suggested, many are indeed forgettable.

The Cape Canaveral Monsters- I watched it as a kid. My dad laughed at the part where one admonished the other about having to reattach an arm again. The thing that I noticed was the hilly Canaveral landscape!

I first saw Captain Kronos on Commander USA’s Groovie Movies that aired on the USA Network on Saturday or Sunday afternoon in the mid to late 1980s. But I also remember those other movies through a variety of other horror host programs. Oh, boy! Other than MST3K, I can’t remember the last time I watched something with a horror host.

No – you’d think so, but my point is that, although there are plenty of bad old flicks still being lampooned on MST3K and Svengoolie and the like, there are still a great many that are not preserved in that fashion, and are hard to come by in any form – DVD or streamin or whatever.

From my list in the OP, consider The Four Skulls of Jonathan Drake. I finally did find it on a DVD anthology, but I haven’t seen it in eons. In fact, it’s on DVD with another on my list, Voodoo Island. I’ll probably ick it up, out of nostalgia. But I don’t see it in any of the usual places.