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Not one single refutation ever. A testament from someone not paying attention during the film isn’t proof.
So by that rationale are you saying that a twist can’t be something you can figure out midway? Because by that rationale a lot of movies don’t have twists. I mean, you could probably figure out the twist to Psycho or Fight Club based on the hints, but most would still consider them twist endings.
For me the biggest surprise was the Andy Garcia’s “What did Roman say” revelation. I was totally fished in, as Wayne and garth might say. Sadly, the film (which is excellent up to that point) nosedives shortly after the twist is revealed - not because of the twist but mostly in a “oh shit, we haven’t left enough time to put in a decent ending” way.
(And Frylock - I wouldn’t have remotely called it a comedy. It’s not as heavyhanded a thriller as some but it’s clearly intended to be a thriller nonetheless.)
To add to the list: Deathtrap. Which is supposed to be funny, despite the “death” part.
Not for the subtitle averse and it’s really impossible to find, but I love it.
Miller’s Crossing. Verna was a real twist.
For an old fun movie, I’d say The Eagle Has Landed.
Big change from the book.
For a newer, more recent movie, I’d say go with A Perfect Getaway.
A gem of a movie that somehow slipped through the cracks largely due to terrible marketing.
Pandorum - It starts good, in the middle turns cheesy B scifi action thriller but the end is worth it.
Related* and inspired by, but not a remake.
*supposedly both inspired by the same real-life murder case.
A wonderful movie for twists. It feeds you a few on the surface or just below so you think you’ve got them all, but you don’t.
Another Frederick Forsyth, but not a movie. It was a 1984 TV show called Two by Forsyth that featured adaptations of his stories Privilege and A Careful Man (both in his collection No Comebacks).
Both very well done, and both feature twists (although it’s pretty mild in Privilege). Worth watching, if you can find it. I stumbled across a videotape of it in a sales bin.
What was the give away in the first scene? There are, like any good movie with a twist, clues along the way, but I’m not remembering the opening scene.
You’re all reminding me of some great films that I haven’t thought about in some time.
A couple of questions / points for discussion:
Kamino Neko, even though I mentioned A Tale of Two Sisters in my first post, I’m not sure what you mean by *two *twists. IIRC the big surprise has two parts to it but they’re revealed at the same time (I think?)
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I didn’t like this movie quite as much as you but that may because the twist was lost on me, or at least I don’t remember what it is. Please refresh me.
Ditto RealityChuck’s suggestion of Polanski’s The Tenant. Fascinating to watch but not sure I’d classify the weird ending as a twist. Then I again I may not be remembering it correctly or, more likely, didn’t understand the meaning at the time. I thought the ending is intentionally ambiguous but I’m open to other interpretations.
ftg, I don’t know if you’re just getting into semantics, but in what world does the * Sixth Sense* not contain a twist? Unless you’re referring to the world of super geniuses that always figure out the twist before the theater has darkened :dubious:
The Crying Game. I loved that movie. A few of my friends said they spotted the twist immediately. I was totally surprised!!!:eek:
ftg’s claim, to my recollection, is that the film intentionally telegraphs the protagonist’s status from the beginning, and that we are supposed to understand that he is dead all along. The final reveal is a reveal to the protagonist, but not to the audience. Anyone who was surprised along with him was not paying attention–not that they failed to pick up on subtle clues, but they were literally not paying attention to what the filmmakers were intentionally telling them, explicitly, from the beginning.
Oh, to go back when everyone did not know the twist.
I was fortunate enough to see 6th Sense opening weekend and to not know it had a twist. The audience screamed, gasped, and were blown away by the reveal.
I’ve gone back and checked–he thinks the dead status of the protagonist is telegraphed intentionally and explicitly in the hospital scene where the kid says “I see dead people.”
FTR his position is, as I said, “soundly refuted,” by the fact that in that near-final scene where the protagonist realized he is dead, we (the audience) are shown a series of clips which set out to explain to us (the audience) what has really been happening in the film. There is no need to re-show these scenes to us, the audience, unless we, the audience, are supposed to see something new in them.
Is honoring the OP’s polite request for no spoilers really so hard?
No, it’s not difficult at all. Does it seem genuinely likely to you that anyone found it difficult? Or does it seem more likely to you that people forgot about it, given especially the near-hijack involved?
In any case, you’re strictly correct in what you’re trying to point out, and on that account I can only apologize and ask if a mod might modify the relevant posts.
There’s ~20 minutes between the first reveal and the second (~1h15 and ~1h35), and even if they came closer on each other’s heels, they’re not the same twist - the second puts a different colour on the first, but it’s substantially a different twist.
Then there’s the bit at the end, that depending on how you interpret it, can remove the effects of the second twist from the first.