How about Sid from Toy Story?
“Three O’Clock High”
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This may not count, but I had to share. In the TV show Freaks and Geeks, in the episode The Garage Door.(a.k.a. Tries and Lies), one of the “cool kids” makes fun of one of the band girls, but she responds with insults that cut him to the bone and leave him speechless…and in love!
IIRC, the kid in Three O’Clock High ended up clocking (sorry) the bully and knocking him out, didn’t he? Am I thinking of the right movie? If so, that’s exactly what the OP didn’t want.
I’d recommend the scene in the Steve Martin movie Roxanne where Martin’s character, C.D. Bales, skillfully and hilariously turns the tables on the guy in the bar who makes fun of Bales’ big nose.
Excellent example, but I think there are a few moments in that of questionable appropriateness for an adolescent. Like when he compares his nose to a penis.
… and the fact that his put-downs don’t work, and he has to beat the man unconscious.
Well, yeah, just before knocking him out (“has he fallen yet?”).
'course I’d still recommend that scene in general (“it must be wonderful to wake up and smell the coffee… in Brazil” - bwahahaha), though perhaps not for this purpose.
?Which is usually how it ends with bullies; despite all the eviscerating verbage you might weigh at them, in the end, you usually have to throw a punch to get them off your back. Methinks the OP’s daughter is making a politically approved, but largely unrealistic moral.
BTW, the “kid’s bodyguard” in My Bodyguard is Adam Baldwin, who played Jayne in Firefly. So, there really wasn’t much doubt that he was going to kick somebody’s ass all over the place in the end, especially after they dumped his bike in the lake. “She is startin’ to damage my calm.”
Stranger
The Wizard of Oz.
The Karate Kid, Showdown and Joe Somebody is what I could come up with.
Swimming with Sharks would be an adult movie but is also worth mentioning.
What part of Karate Kid? As I remember it, Daniel didn’t get anyone’s respect 'till he got good at hitting people.
Depending on how she’s approaching the subject, this might actually prove her point perfectly. Will prefers to take the bully out verbally, but is perfectly willing to go violent if the bully won’t back down. The fact is, you can’t talk a bully down if you’re scared of him. You have to be entirely ready to face him physically before you stand a chance of talking him down verbally.
How does selection bias enter into it? The OP’s daughter wants examples that prove the point she is trying to make. There is no mention of doing any kind of exhaustive statistical examination of the outcomes of various alternate strategies.
Just go to the source material. Cyrano De Bergerac
Or how about how they delt witth the bully Alex in A Clockwork Orange?
Oh, I know it’s not a textbook example, but if hundreds of the finest minds on the internet are struggling to come up with an example for her, then it might be time to re-work her hypothesis, or to conclude that, if talk is a good way to confront a bully, maybe it’s not commonly portrayed as such in movies for some other reason (like it’s not as dramatically interesting as fisticuffs). I’d take it as an opportunity to talk to my son about the pitfalls of selecting data that supports my hypothesis and discarding data that doesn’t support it, 'cause as a parent, you’ve got to jump on those opportunities when they present themselves. But I’m not being too literal here, I know that her presentation isn’t on bullies as portrayed in popular culture. What she’s looking for is essentially a visual aid, not data. I hope. But kids (and adults) tend to use such images to “prove” their point, and if she’s trying to do that, it seems she’s barking up the wrong tree, statistically speaking.
As** Stranger on a Train** says, it may be pie-in-the-sky dreaming to think you can rely on talk to face down a bully. I think we’d find SOME examples of it in storytelling (outside of *Barney *and Sesame Street) if it was a common human experience. I still think the closest we’ve come is Good Will Hunting, and like **Leviosaurus **points out, it only worked because Will was ready and willing to fight, and even suggested it after a verbal k.o.
My daughter isn’t looking at “data,” she’s looking at movies. She’s not trying to prove a point so much as illustrate a point. Since she’s 12, and talking to 6th graders, so I don’t think it’s necessary to overthink the thing. Hell, I go to professional presentations where the highly paid expert throws a clip from a movie into a powerpoint just to make the audience snicker.
She learned while doing this project that the most common kind of bullying of girls is sexual, which got her thinking about sexual harassment and abuse in general. She might end up showing scenes from The Accused and then screaming at the boys, because it’s made her upset and emotional.
I hate it when this crap turns out to be educational.
Bah. In “Good Will Hunting”, MATT DAMON is the bully, not the albino preppie.
Damn, I hate that movie.
How about *The Sixth Sense * when they lock him in the closet?
I don’t remember the scenes from Can’t Buy Me Love and The Sixth Sense, so I’ll guess I’ll put 'em in my Netflix queue. Thanks for the suggestions.