Since the moderation (well deserved, not questioning that) was for ‘hate speech’ - including some interesting links that were included in the signature -
Why did you quote the entire ‘essay’ and links? would it not have been just as effective to leave the content behind or perhaps ‘snip’ the quote if you felt the context was important ? Leaving just his salutation would have been enough should an interested reader wish to go back to review the rest of the ‘content’.
I see this kind of post as much as ‘spam’ as anything - so extra links back are only going to ‘help’ the user - since apparently they are not here to actually discuss the content.
I don’t get why the guy wasn’t immediately banned and the post sent to the cornfield. Does anyone seriously think he will have anything constructive to contribute ever?
The problem is that if you let the board be a haven for hateful lunatics, good posters will become nauseated and leave. Some reasonable people may cross a line here and there, but that guy wasn’t it. You know that. You aren’t an idiot, you’ve been around the block, and you know that level of crazy hate isn’t going to rethink itself based on a mild admonition to “dial it back” a bit.
But, we are all about fighting iggorance here, and I learned some pwecious new vocabulary from da guy. I never heard of a “masculivoid” before. Is that a guy who likes to eat bronies or something?
Never mind the hate speech, I thought we had issues with driving traffic to outside blogs, and that guy linked to several (links all still up, last I looked).
I generally agree with this in that it’s a judgement call not a bright line. However this was so extreme, it doesn’t really seem debatable, does it?
Also, what really struck me was the general insanity of the whole thing. The guy is clearly not living on the same plane as the rest of us, and I doubt he could engage in rational discussion even if he wanted to, which he probably doesn’t. I’d think the same thing even if the guy was denouncing, say, squirrels.
Fucking squirrels. Acting all cute and shit. WE KNOW IT’S AN ACT YOU BASTARDS!
The thing is - and I think I pointed this out in the mod note - I was halfway confused about what his point actually was. That was some disjointed weirdness, there.
Larry Borgia, the board should be a haven for almost anyone. And I have great faith in the Teeming Millions to shred the more extreme among us when necessary. Sort of like leaving open the holocaust denial threads of a few months ago. We let those go for a while so that the arguments could be shot down for the education of the readers.
In this particular case, I decided to make a good faith decision to allow the post to stay - wishing them into the cornfield is an extreme sanction, in my eyes - and see what the Teeming Millions - and the crazed homophobe - did with the opportunity. Seeing as how he hasn’t replied I’d say it went well enough.
I still think you should (when you have time) edit the post with your moderation (no sense in repeating garbage) AND i think you should break the links in the original post (so as to prevent google and ohter engines adding SDMB as sites that link to his, adding some credibility to his ‘blog’.)
The thing is, when you allow hateful lunatics in it drives good people away. People don’t want to waste time shredding the arguments of pedos and Nazis and whatever it is that guy is. They leave the board. I know at least a couple of people left when Cesario was allowed to spew his nonsense, and why wouldn’t they? I don’t know if anyone left due to Gack, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they did. People might want to debate with reasonable people of differing opinions. They don’t want to be harangued by lunatics. There are better things to do. When you invite pedos, nazis and that dude who calls women vaginas into your party on the grounds of “everyone’s welcome!” You’re going to turn around and the only people in your party are pedos, nazis and that dude who calls women vaginas. Granted I don’t think this guy is coming back, so the problem takes care of itself. But if he does, the people who remain aren’t going to be interested in engaging with him, or shredding his arguments, because, what arguments? People may stick around to laugh and point, or to egg him on.
Also, it offends my personal sense of fairness that lekatt is banned, Der Trihs is on thin ice, and a post like that gets a welcome and a mild admonition.
But note, OTOH, that people like lekatt, Der Trihs and umpty-ump others who have been banned and/or are on “thin ice” are typically not insta-banned, but only after making arses of themselves for a while, even after multiple mod notes and warnings. So, if that is to be the paradigm here (I can’t beleeeeve I actually used the word “paradigm”!), then the moderator’s handling of Mr. Vagina Dude was in keeping with tradition – so far.
I think it’s clear enough this guy isn’t coming back (or, if so, not for long). The shoot-down that occurred in the posts following that was probably the best of all possible responses, up to that point. (Well, that’s aside from derailing the original topic of the thread, which I believe was something about bronies. That was probably a bigger problem there.)
The board has been allowing posts like that for as long as I’ve been a member here. Going on thirteen years later, we still haven’t been turned into Stormfront Lite. I don’t think your fears are well-founded.
That “post” was to do nothing but drive traffic to his blog or websites thst he has linked to. Nothing more, nothing less.
He won’t be back. He won’t respond to anyone’s reply. That is one hell of a first post, don’t you think? Sort of on the lines of a written diatribe cut and pasted into as many message boards as he could find on the web, include in his signature his address on the web. And if a few folks click on his links, well, his time here wasn’t completely wasted. For him, I mean.
I think the links should be removed, but let the post stand.
I don’t think this board has a history of deleting posts because they hold ugly points of view.
Well, I’m just a vagina, so my opinion may not count for much, but I heartily agree that while the links should be deleted the post should stand. Because through his post, he made the word “vagina” sound both cute and humorous, which - let’s face it - is not an easy accomplishment.
