But he didn’t use any swear words.
That was more of a request to end the constest, worn out “Pics?” jokes in threads where women ask advice about bra-shopping, or talk about having breast-reduction surgery, etc. Basically, “please, enough with the sexist pig threadshits.” (At least, that’s what it start OUT as.)
Two arguments:
- There is an immaterial God who rules the universe, and whose existence we must accept on faith.
In response to this one, a call for a cite is inappropriate, since the claim by its very nature is nonfalsifiable.
- All suicide is related to female sexuality, and any experiment performed on the subject would back me up.
In response to this argument, a call for a cite is almost mandatory, since it’s a claim about a falsifiable phenomenon–including a claim that it’s falsifiable.
Including the first in Great Debates is kind of necessary, since obviously one of the major debates that’s concerned humanity over our existence is whether there’s a god. Including the second in great debates, after calls for cites are ignored, cheapens the forum.
I do like the idea of popping things like that down to the Pit sooner rather than later. As soon as someone makes it clear that they’re going to make ridiculous appalling claims with no evidence–as soon as it’s clear that their only contribution to the board is as a chew toy–let’s put them in the pit where they can be chewed properly.
Just FTR, Jonathan Chance and Left Hand are going at it in style. Cites:
[INDENT]Vamp
You’re so comforting.
Dr. Hackenbush
We Hackenbush’s are all like that. Shall we sit down and bat it around?
[/INDENT]
Answered by, of course, by the Connoisseur of Arguments, 1:09-1:14.
For the sexual advantage of “nice guys”. Who he also claims work to stop rape (and war and violence and blah blah blah). No contradiction whatsoever.
I for one think the moderation was spot on. The OP had started circling back to simply restating his theses…the reason it went on so long is because he literally spouted TONS of crazy every time he posted…and every new post brought something new to be questioned/challenged…it’s not like the spiral started on page one.
The misogyny was, IMHO, more of the clueless (“i don’t understand women but I think do”) variety than malicious (“they all be bitches and hoes”). There was no cause to shut down the thread for that alone.
Kudos to Human Action for hanging in there with him post after post, page after page without resorting to name calling. The Dopers who participated in that thread for the most part gave Ecimandu the benefit of the doubt and gave him every chance to make his point, and you have to admit that Ecimandu did stay very civil throughout, though increasingly nutty. He seemed to be genuinely confused by the continued request for a cite, I think because the “studies” he continually referenced were his numerous thought experiments that hadn’t actually been conducted ( which he admitted). He believed that the results of his proposed studies were so self evident that they didn’t even NEED to be conducted, he could just reference the “conclusions” as fact. I think (even now) he genuinely does not understand why we just didn’t concede that point to him.
Lastly, I have to say I’m a little concerned that the OP states it is his life mission to prove his theories by any means necessary as long as it’s ethical…mostly because I’m afraid of what he considers to be ethical. This thread will one day be admitted as evidence at trial once Ecks finally snaps. He has all the earmarks of a raging sociopath.
Sorry, but I disagree, turtles - his misogyny WAS malicious. When someone seriously states that, if a woman has sex with a man who flirts with her, she should either be sentenced to jail or be raped by 50 nice guys (oh, I’m sorry, “forced to have sex with 50 nice guys”, my bad)? And when he blames literally ALL SUICIDE AND MURDER on women only wanting to fuck douchebags? And that literally every single woman goes along with this system because it’s just soooo beneficial to them?
That is NOT clueless misogyny. That is long-simmering, savored hatred right there.
Mr. Chance closed the thread of the smartest person on Earth? That’s cold.
Yeah, go figure. It’s like I’m too dumb to see the light or something.
I don’t get this sentiment. An argument is either valid or not. Cites are a helpful tool in establishing facts and bolstering one’s position. If someone choses to not provide them, it makes his claims more questionable and his argument less convincing. That doesn’t mean it’s necessarily wrong. The OP of that thread seems to be nuts and his opinions off the wall. I think that was demonstrated amply. Even without cites. So, what’s the problem?
That’s the guy who realizes we are on a concave world, not the misogynist!