You just tossed two of my threads into The BBQ Pit, here and here, because you don’t see a debate.
What would make this worthy of “debate” status for you? Both address a current issue, both have two(or more) sides to take, both have people giving opposing opinions about the issue at hand-what am I missing here? Not enough people weighing in on one of the sides?
edited to add:“previaling” should be “prevailing” in the title.
Fixed.
Thank you.
Heh–I was just coming to ATMB to say the same thing. As I said in one of the threads:
The title sets out the debate. Hurricane has taken one side; others have taken the other. Folks are citing evidence to support their position.
Folks clearly are participating in the discussion in Great Debates. This is not a good move; please return it to GD.
Since then, Hurricane has dropped out of the thread due to its move.
This move does nothing to foster communication.
There was no real debate in either thread - just look at the first replies, all slams on Trump with no real contribution to any actual debate. Blame Dopers, not the Mods.
Did you email the moderator privately before posting this thread?
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How is it your thread? iiandyiiii started the first one you linked to. :dubious:
Again: there were folks using cites to reference evidence to support their positions. That’s what a debate is. Criticizing Trump, whether you call it a slam or not, is a legitimate thing to do in a debate.
The transgender thread was at least straddling the line of a rant. There wasn’t much (if any) debate, it was just people bitching about it. The faint whiff of debate started after it was moved.
The Boy Scout thread seemed clearly a debate, and I agree it shouldn’t have been moved.
That’s not true in the transgender thread before the move and only belatedly true in the other. In the transgender thread, there were no cites beyond the OP before the thread was moved to the Pit. In the Scout thread, it took until post #14, and that wasn’t a cite to support a position but to post the BSA’s response to Trump.
There was no debate, so GD was not the appropriate forum.
The transgender thread was moved less than two hours after it started–barely enough time for the obvious debate to get going.
There was clearly debate. Did you not read Hurricane’s posts, and the responses to it, and the cites raised? Saying “there was no debate” is objectively incorrect.
Why would that matter? I’m not seeing this to be so different from any number of ATMB threads.
As for the OPs, the Transgender thread was, as noted, started by iiandyiiii, not Czarcasm. A minor issue that does not change the question, but just for the record. And that thread was nothing but a rant from the get-go. How could you think it was GD-worthy?
The other thread, IMO, looked like a rant dressed in GD clothing, to borrow a metaphor. And it was Godwinized pretty quickly-- it only took 9 posts to play the Hitler card. Then it looked more like a “let’s gang up on HurricaneDitka” thread than anything else. I’m not surprised it was moved to The Pit. There were mod notes aimed towards at least 5 people to stop taking personal potshots at that poster.
And this differs from most GD threads…how? 
You are correct-That’s what I get for rushing a post.
Maybe we can just turn the whole MB into The Pit for the duration. 
The transgender-ban thread was meant to be a debate – and it was (and still is) to some degree. Since it got moved, I used some Pit language, but it was meant to be a substantive criticism of this policy.
It wasn’t meant to be merely a rant. That’s a new policy that I think can reasonably be debated, even if I’m angry about it and expressed some anger.
Yeah, that way people that are on the losing side of the debate can avoid having to defend their position by claiming a fake “high road” of not wanting to be in a BBQ Pit thread.
Don’t say I never did anything for you.