This questions pertains to posts that are moved. I recently had a post moved to the pit by an administrator because it was not a debate but a contest. The movement was immediate and swift. Yet there remains a thread about “Videotaping an arrest is a 1st Amend. Right” which is also not a debate.
I’m new here so I was just wondering if there is favoritism played that is accepted as par for the course. Not complaining, just want to know the facts. Are there certain people you have get ‘in’ with in order to successfully participate? I really do enjoy debating others and would like to stay and I understand administrators are human and have their own prejudices and faults and power corrupts and all of that. And I am not disputing the move, the explanation was adequate, I am disputing the unevenhandedness.
So, do you feel there is favoritism and do you have any examples? Is this an example of one ‘rule’ being unevenly applied? Am I being too legalistic and do you completely disagree that the two posts in question are alike?
In this instance, Marley was correct to move the Noah thread to the Pit. That thread was a complaint about the conduct of other posters, and those types of threads go in the Pit. There was no favoritism in play so far as I can tell.
I think the clue is the second word in the forum title. I saw no debate in the thread and apparently staff didn’t either. It fits much better in the pit.
Surprise surprise this is moved too. OK so there is favoritism. I just want to know the ins and outs of this place. I am not being oppositional defiant at all. the reasoning stated was this is not a debate but a rant, and I am not disputing that. What I am disputing is the favoritism since one of the current threads is not a debate. No reasoning given for this move but I can take a guess.
I pissed off someone and I don’t even know why or how.
Respectfully, strugglingChristian, you’re new here, and before you start complaining that the rules are being applied unfairly, you should find out what the rules actually are. First off, threads about the rules of the board go in the About This Message Board forum, so I’m moving this out of Great Debates.
As far as your question goes: the videotaping arrests thread is absolutely a debate thread. It’s true that everybody who has posted in there agrees that the First Amendment protects the right to videotape an officer making an arrest, and the conversation is moving along to other issues. But it’s a valid debate topic. Your thread was basically a “hijack this thread” contest, and it looks like you posted it as a way of complaining about the way other people argue. You can do that in The BBQ Pit, but it doesn’t belong in Great Debates.
I’m just moving your threads to the correct forum, strugglingChristian. Complaints about other posters generally go in the Pit. Threads about the way the site is moderated belong in ATMB.
my post was moved as soon as it was posted because it was not a debate. The other post was not a debate when posted either. So you are saying some posts you can wait until there is a debate and some posts you can move immediately?
Psst…Marley is one of the decent mods around here. He hasn’t done you wrong. You posted a thread in the wrong forum, Marley moved it. No harm, no foul.
There are times to take to the ramparts and oppose mod actions–but this is not one of them. Let it be, and maybe review the rules of the various forums as suggested above.
Yeah, “favoritism” has nothing to do with it. You either don’t understand the rules, or don’t understand what constitutes “debate”. You really don’t have a leg to stand on in complaining about either of these moves.
You didn’t piss anyone off. When a thread is in the wrong forum, it gets moved, end of story. This thread (the one we’re in right now) is about board rules, so it gets moved to that forum.
The “videotaping arrests” thread belongs in GD because it’s a post that is meant to spark debate about videotaping arrests. It doesn’t matter that most or all of the follow on posts supported the OP’s assertion.
You are right, I have not completely reviewed the rules. But I am not even disputing that. The explanation for the move was clearly stated and it just so happens that there was an earlier post that would have fit the same vein but was not.
I understand now, Marley moved the post. I was surprised how quickly it happened and was wondering why. I know now since M and I had a discussion last night why I was targeted. I am not here to ruffle feathers. I am sorry that I have offended you somehow Marley.
One posed a subject for debate. One did not. If you had asked your Noah’s Ark question seriously (either as a historical question or a theological question), it would not have been moved.
You weren’t targeted and you didn’t offend anybody. You just posted something in the wrong forum, that’s all (and you’re wrong that the videotaping of cops thread was not a debate topic).
The difference is that the other thread was at least a debate topic (I agree there hasn’t been much debate). But it could turn into one. Yours was not going to be a debate no matter what. Your thread was partly a joke and partly a complaint. It’s unlikely it would become any kind of serious discussion, and even if it did, that kind of discussion would be more appropriate for the Pit than for GD.
You were not “targeted,” and you did not offend me. We disagreed in one thread, maybe two, and that happens all the time. Moving threads is not a punishment. It’s something we do to keep the board organized and make it easier for people to find the kinds of threads they’re interested in.
I deliberately added in that it was going to devolve into a debate about the existence of God. And I also added many points in question that I encouraged debate on. But like I said, I am not questioning the move. Who was it that actually posed the question “is there a debate here?” in that other thread? So please don’t act as if it’s obvious that the other thread was a debate. If you are going to mold it into the form of a debate or state that the poster had the intentions of a debate, that is not an adequate defense as the same could be said of my post.