I’m posting this because I don’t think Marley23 should have locked his own thread announcing the banning. Posters should be able to comment on a decision that will permanently take away another posters privileges.
I liked some of mswas’s posts. However, I’m not that familiar with his history, and it sure seemed like his posts today were intended to be “suicide by cop”, but I don’t want see any banning just swept under the rug.
I’m not criticizing Marley for the banning, but “suicide by cop” cases get internal review - hence this thread.
Announcements of bans and suspensions always get locked, but people are free to open a new thread to ask questions.
That was suicide by mod as far as I was concerned, yes. You can read his ‘I’m going to get banned, goodbye’ thread as evidence and to see he had no interest in trying to follow the same rules as everybody else. He had eight warnings since last April, including a suspension in the fall.
O.K. I didn’t know that was S.O.P, but now that I do, I think it makes sense. So me starting this thread also makes sense.
Again, I’m not criticizing you for pulling the trigger on what was obviously “suicide by mod”, but a banning is a big decision. I want posters to take a second look at what led up to it.
Let’s recap. mswas gets warned. Then over in GD he is posting in the “Obvious Facts” thread, when we get this exchange:
Czarcasm was kind of insulting, but probably within bounds. Next, we have mswas’s response:
Note: mswas did not level an insult in her response. Please also note—and this is important—that Czarcasm’s post to mswas was as a poster, NOT as a mod. mswas then posts to Mr. Dibble, perfectly on topic. Here, see for yourself:
Now we have Marley23 come on the scene:
I don’t see where mswas questioned the board rules, the moderating, or called people names. She certainly went no further than Czarcasm. Conveniently, Marley didn’t bother to quote her in his moderating post.
Any way, mswas responds:
At which point, Czarcasm—a mod, mind you, perfectly aware of the rules and capable of handling himself—continues the debate:
At 8:20AM, mswas responds, perfectly on topic, sans insult of any kind:
At 8:21, mswas starts a thread in ATMB:
At 8:25, Marley23 bans him:
Okay. So we have a mod, Czarcasm, if not actually violating the do not insult the poster rule, coming awfully close. At the very least he was baiting mswas (in the post I provided and several times in the thread prior to that.
Then we have another mod, Marley23, admonish mswas for his response to Czarcasm. mswas’s response at least as within bounds as Czarcasm’s post (more so IMO), but Marley feels the need to come to the defense of another mod AND make a bad call in the process. All the while, mswas demonstrates genuine interest in the thread and continues to stay on topic.
Finally, to register her displeasure with what she saw as—and what was—1) bad moderation and 2) poor behavior by a moderator as a poster, he opens a thread in ATMB and simply asked the one question he did. Was there snark? Sure. But quite tepid compared to a lot of posts in that forum.
So, I hereby request that this injustice be reviewed by the administration. I think Czarcasm should just be reminded that GD is not for insults and that as a mod, he probably she not get as close to the line as he did.
Marley23 should be reprimanded and be made to apologize to mswas.
This was wrong on many levels. There is some irony in it though: by the actions of Czarcasm and (especially) Marley23, mswas has been proven correct that the tiniest fraction—real or imagined—wold get him banned.
I didn’t see the insult either, although I didn’t read the whole thread. It certainly would have been convenient for **Marley **to cite it in his post.
mswas proved to be constitutionally unable to participate in a thread without devolving into insults.
The typical pattern (not just in the last series of post - you have to look at the overall pattern over a LONG time) was as follows:
mswas gets into a heated discussion, NOT in the pit mswas disagrees with another poster’s point. mswas gets frustrated, and loses control mswas calls the poster in question names using a variation on “idiot, mental defective, moron, stupid ass, etc” mswas states that it’s impossible to debate with morons, and their moronic ideas, and therefore wins the debate due to his/her superior intelligence. mswas is warned by the mods
Lather, rinse and repeat, again and again and again.
There comes a time when the mods have to pull the plug, because mswas was JUST NOT LEARNING NOT TO INSULT OTHERS OUTSIDE THE PIT.
Today’s banning was not even close to suicide by cop. It was shoot the guy then sprinkle some crack on him. There was two posters trolling today and neither of them was mswas.
I want to add that I was going to make this same exact thread with exactly the same points. I then took pause and decided not too. Even if it’s overturned which it is warranted in this specific instance, he will just be banned immediately at their next earliest convenience. I would never want to post here under those conditions. This is the same as Carol Stream when the SDMB says its your time to go, well they will be glad to pack your bags. I didn’t even like Carol Stream at all but sadly that paved the way for this.
Which part of mswas was practically asking to be banned don’t you get?
The final straw doesn’t matter one bit. What matters is that mswas went out of his way to get the ban stick. If it wasn’t this, it would have been something else soon enough.
Wouldn’t you be happier posting on another board instead of constantly bitching and whining about this one?