LIVE suck with their “i wanna be crucified” sound, thier wannabe Buddhism, incomprehensible lyrics “it was an evening i shared with the sun, to find out where we belong” “can you hear the dolphins cry?”
and their singer? the man sounds like someone is sharpening their razors on his dick. ed kowalczyk is starting to resemble uncle fester!
blink-182 sucks goat shit!! cannot write or sing to save thier lives and probably spend a lot of time being drunk and getting tattooed like the wannabees they are.
the doors? just because jim morrison died young, does not make him worthy, the more i hear it, the more i loathe it.
and i especially hate “light my fire” and that one song where he screams"mojo rising" like a defective alarm siren.
also to the list i shall add
Snoop Dogg, Master P, Richard Marx,
the cranberries, and vertical horizon
NIN and “suckin” are two words that burn ones eyes and scold ones tounge, or at least that’s the effects it has on me. I mean, even the most conservative music critics hailed The Fragile as a masterpiece. Trent, in my opinion is musician extrodinaire, he does all the instruments, he sings, and produces and mixes all of his tracks, what more could you ask for? I mean i guess i could understand your low opinion of NIN just from the songs that are played over the airwaves, but for a closer and truer look, please check out the Fragile…or at least use Mr.Napster
Just like to point out, even though I like F-Whit a fair bit less than the runs after a dodgy curry, it’s Whitney who’s helping to pay Dolly’s bills, which is a good thing, cause it lets Dolly avoid having to do commercial records herself, and she can do great ones like her last bluegrass record
And Mr Half Man, don’t you think the band that started it all (and gave you your name), Einsturzende Neubauten show up NIN, manson, etc as a bunch of talentless, idea-less hacks?
Dave Matthews Band - The band itself sounds great. Dave’s vocal stylings first made me want to stuff his head through a plate glass window, but then I saw them play on TV. His spastic motions like a dimestore David Byrne and obvious self-infatuation based on no visible talent still make me want to stuff his head through a window, but now I want to shove his neck back and forth until his head falls off.
The Doors - I used to co-edit a poetry magazine in college and I can tell you that Jim Morrison’s poetic development was arrested in sophomore year. Not senior, not freshman. Very specifically sophomore year. Ray Manzarek (keyboards) was recently described by NPR as being “classically trained,” but I always thought “circus trained” was closer to the mark.
All those whiney folkies? Give me someone who can sing, whether she writes her own material or not.
Hehe…congrats…you’re the 1st person to decifer the name…supprised you didn’t indentify with the front…242. But back to your comment…sure EN stands a million miles higher then NIN as far as creativity goes, but NIN has a nack for righting great “pop” songs, i’d never call em industrial, but trent reznor can make some fine musical arrangments. Oh, by the way…manson is pretty bland, i agree with you on that point.
…and I do. Sort of. I loveJagged Little Pill; despite the notoriety of “You Outta Know,” the entire album isn’t a bunch of man-hating vehemence. It’s musically different, interesting, and creative.
Her next album, Supposed Former Infatuation Junkie, is…uh…interesting. It is definitely an acquired taste. Acquired or not, “So Pure” and “Unsent” still suck. What really, really is starting to annoy me about Alanis is she is taking to “solos” on instruments she obviously has never touched before, and good gravy it’s painful to hear. For example, the awful flute playing on “That I Would Be Good,” and the most atrocious harmonica solo EVER on a concert rendition of “Hand in My Pocket” I heard on the radio a while back. Her entire solo was TWO NOTES. TWO! Over and over again! And the crowd actually went nuts! Arrrrggghhh!
All that to say that I like Alanis, at least 1 1/2 albums of Alanis. Live, or playing any instrument, and I’m done.
Now, who I think su-u-UCKS:
Jennifer Lopez. It is obvious she can’t sing; she never sings live. But who cares if she can sing, she’s hot, right? :rolleyes:
Limp Bizkit. Nothing interesting to say, not even an interesting way to say it, and they didn’t give a fuck that women were being raped in the mosh pit at their Woodstock performance.
Madonna. This one’s tricky–she’s an excellent performer. But as a musician, she can’t sing or write worth shit.
Macy Gray. Make it stop! MAKE IT STOP!
Pearl Jam, mainly due to the worst single from this past decade: their rendition of whatever that thing’s called…“Oh where oh where can my baby be…” ARRRRGGGGGGHHHHH! ACK! ICK!
Chalk me up for someone who cant stand “Live.” I liked “Throwing Copper” but any band who releases a song with the word dolphins in it should be summarily executed.
I apologize to any marine biologists, but dolphins are not cool subject matter for a rock song. Dolphins, wolves, and eagles don’t work as images because they evoke images of shittily air-brushed T-shirts with blue-eyed wolves and dolphins leaping through rainbows. No, no way, no fucking dolphins. And “can you hear the dolphins cry” sounds like a Cyndi Lauper song.
Those two needed each other. After the breakup PF turned into a top-40 kiddie-pop/complaint-rock band, and Waters turned into that cranky old guy who’s always muttering to himself at the bus stop.
Yeah, i have listened to Dark Side of the Moon too many times.
I admit the Wizard of Oz thing is fun with that album, especially the Muchkin scene, but that’s about all Pink Floyd is good for.
I am tempted to say i hate Jimmy Hendrix, just to see the reaction, but that’s not true. Jimmy’s unbelievable.
Let’s see…
Jesus Fuck, somehow people have managed to insult VNV Nation, Zep, Pink Floyd, and Jethro Tull on this thread. I confess I just don’t understand what kind of musical aesthetic would exclude such extraordinary bands.
I hate the Googoo Dolls and their incredibly insipid Broadway song. The lyrics are bad and the music is elementary. I am surprised that anyone actually listens to it. I forcefully turn the radio off when I hear it come on. I know enough about the music business to know that number one hits are pretty much chosen beforehand by their executives and potential marketability but the staying power of the songs is determined more by the people. This song is so repetitive and idiotic that the people whom I have seen who like it seem to have gone through some type of Clockwork Orange conditioning when it comes on. The song can do no wrong in their eyes.
Did I mention I hate this song and the performers now too. I hate the performers because they managed to make a song that thoroughly annoys me. I think the next time I hear that song I will go annoy the postal workers and then tell them I work at the radio stations that play that song. That would be a treat but I would probably be dead by then.
I’ll agree with everyone else you mentioned, but good Lord!, what do you have sitting in your ears? Or is “Supernatural” the only Santana album you’ve heard? As a guitarist for 21 years–most of that playing lead–and a student of American music forms, I’ve got to say that CS is one of the most talented, innovative guitarists since Les Paul made the first solidbody! Sure, “Supernatural” sucks; why do you think it was so popular? “Abraxas” isn’t much better; that’s why you hear the songs from it on the radio. But sit down and listen to “Europa” or “Live at the Fillmore.” You’ll change your opinion.
The reason Santana’s been hyped, lately, as such a great guitarist is that he is. Unfortunately, the first album to get him serious recognition is probably his worst (shit! Did I call it an album? Age check!).
BTW, one of his earliest rhythm guitar players was Neil Schon. The keyboard player at the time was Greg Rolie. If you want to hear what Journey could have been if Steve Perry hadn’t come in, check out “From the Beginning” (I think). Weird, psychedelic, free-form, LSD stuff.
It’s an album. An album is a compilation of music, usually 8-15 songs, released together as a single recording. You can get an album on a CD, a cassette, a record, or, I suppose, via Napster.
Sorry. Halber; An old friend of mine likes NIN and has repeatedly tried to turn me onto them. I’ve heard The Fragile album and thought it was awful. A mess even.
So?
Anyone could play a few instruments if they understood the basics of music. Trent hardly plays though. He’ll play a few notes and repeat it… and repeat it. I think he’s given too much credit. The music in itself is one-dimensional, repetitious, and monotonous. Also, he tries to be depressive, but it comes off as immature drivel that would only appeal to the 13-15 crowd. Basically, he has nothing to say, other than life sucks, which is a shitty worldview in my opinion.
Sorry. Halber; An old friend of mine likes NIN and has repeatedly tried to turn me onto them. I’ve heard The Fragile album and thought it was awful. A mess even.
So?
Anyone could play a few instruments if they understood the basics of music. Trent hardly plays though. He’ll play a few notes and repeat it… and repeat it. I think he’s given too much credit. The music in itself is one-dimensional, repetitious, and monotonous. Also, he tries to be depressive, but it comes off as immature drivel that would only appeal to the 13-15 crowd. Basically, he has nothing to say, other than life sucks, which is a shitty worldview in my opinion.
Sorry. Halber; An old friend of mine likes NIN and has repeatedly tried to turn me onto them. I’ve heard The Fragile album and thought it was awful. A mess even.
So?
Anyone could play a few instruments if they understood the basics of music. Trent hardly plays though. He’ll play a few notes and repeat it… and repeat it. I think he’s given too much credit. The music in itself is one-dimensional, repetitious, and monotonous. Also, he tries to be depressive, but it comes off as immature drivel that would only appeal to the 13-15 crowd. Basically, he has nothing to say, other than life sucks, which is a shitty worldview in my opinion.
Yeah, I know the etymology–in fact I have a few real albums in the attic, ya know, several 78 RPM records, 10 or 12 inch, with one song to a side bundled up like a, well, photograph album. But I teach college freshmen, and when I slip and say “album” instead of “CD” or “Disc,” I get looked at funny. And if I mention vinyl, well, that’s an unknown. “Oh, yeah, those things my parents have.”
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We were discussing Elvis and The Beatles today, in the idea of how they’ve influenced current pop culture and music, and out of 46 students, not a damn one has seen the '68 Comeback Concert! Not a damn one. And they show it on VH1 or TNT about every other weekend. I mentioned Lennon being shot in front of the Dakota, and they thought I meant the state (yes, that’s the state…I know, I know). Mark David Chapman? Who’s that? Paul McCartney–isn’t he the guy whose wife died of cancer? Ringo? George?
May Erato, the Muse of Lyric Poetry (closest I could come to good rock & roll) help us!
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I think if you’re gonna make a statement like this, you should also include a list of instruments that you play and maybe some links to any relevant CD projects you have worked on
If you understand the basics of music, then you know that a song should not be judged by the number of notes that it contains. In fact, I can think of very few things that would be a worse indicator of song quality. Some of the greatest songs written have three chords. In fact, there are precious few songs with more than 6 chords in the entirety of music that has come out since the rock revolution. Some of the greatest musicians ever never learned how to read music. If one note conveys the mood, message, etc. that you wanted to convey, what need is there for two?
That being said, if NIN isn’t for you, then it isn’t for you. However, just because his music doesn’t speak to your soul doesn’t mean that the guy’s got nothing to say.
It goes both ways.