Source: http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/06/florida.license.veil/index.html
Source: http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/06/florida.license.veil/index.html
We had a somewhat similar situation in Pennsylvania a few years back. Amish hunters argued that a law that required them to wear high visibility orange violated their right to remain plain.
The court rules that hunting was not a part of the Amish faith, it wasn’t required by their religion, and hunting was not an inalienable right. Final decision, you don’t have to wear orange, to avoid doing so, don’t hunt. Should you choose to hunt, wear orange or be fined?
This smells the same to me. Driving isn’t a requirement of Islam. She can keep her face covered if she feels strongly about it; she just can’t drive if she does.
I heard on the news last night that the judge made the right ruling, that she must remove the veil for the picture.
My question: in Arab counties, do the women wear veils at the beach (along with thong bikinis)?
If you don’t mind me asking, I’ve never heard the acronym DMZ for anything but Demiliarized Zone. Is the DMV that bad where you live?
Egad!! Do they drive around veiled too??? I am not going to any islamic countries!! Women drivers in cars are bad enough!! but vieled women drivers!!! :smack: (I wonder what their insurance is like :eek:)
I dont care about anyones religious/spiritual beliefs… if shes to drive in 'ma town … she gotta show her mug! Alternatively she can go drive a camel or a ford fiesta around town… in those circumstances even I would wear a veil.
Whew, a lot of opinions on this. Mountain out of a molehill, IMO. 
Anyway, as to the security issue, are only people who have licenses security risks? I think the picture is mostly so one can buy booze. Not of much interest to a devout muslim, eh?
BTW; if I meet all the legal criteria, I have a right to my DL. There ya go!
Peace,
mangeorge
Well, if you would read for comprehension through the thread I believe I address this.
(a) the Hijab as simple head scarf / hair covering is the most common thing to see in terms of ‘veiling’ and is hardly something to squeel about in terms of safety. Plenty of women with the hijab drive and I fail to see a problem.
(b) In terms of those who wear the niqab, I can’t ever recall seeing a woman wearing the niqab drive.
Please don’t, I hardly need more clueless tourists gawking. However, just to dispell once more the gross misconception, the face veil, the Niqab, is RARE outside of the Gulf. Hardly ever seen.
Well is this not a fine display of Western gender sensitivity.
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Seems to me that anything that is painful for women is considered ‘best’, including female ‘circumcision’ where all here female genitalia is removed with a rusty knife and then she’s sewn shut with just a tiny hole to pee out of. Since she’ s missing all her parts the scarring causes a female to take like 15 minutes to pee, and it’s painful!
That’s considered more ‘hygenic’, even though all first born children always die…to make room for the others…cause labors is usually 5 days long and the woman is missing the stretchy labia needed for stretching so the first kid can come through. Imagine the tearing when a kid finally does make it out!!
This practice is popular for muslims and some other groups. Men won’t marry women unless they are ‘hygenic’, and you bet that would lead to dryness!!
Female circumcision - and here you describe the most extreme version practiced in the North East Horn of Africa, is not a Muslim practice at all. Of course it is notable that the cutting instrument used is invariably whatever is traditional to use for traditional surgeries, not something specifically chosen to kill and maim.
Again: Not a Muslim practice at all.
It appears to have originated in North East Africa, the Horn area, where the most extreme forms are found and to have spread into parts of the Nile Valley and later perhaps into parts of the Sahel, Western Africa. It’s practiced by both Muslim and non-Muslim ethnicities, although in West Africa it is associated most strongly with Islam – wrongly and ignorantly.
The practice is utterly unknown in the rest of the Muslim world, including, for example, North Africa.
Amazing the amount of half-informed ignorance that flouts around about the Islamic world, bloody hell does anyone ever bother to bloody read anything of substance?
From Driving license mug shots to female circumcisions… boy does the world go round!