Must every bit of film containing racism be censored?

I mean, there are a lot of great historical works of art, film and otherwise, containing racist references which were acceptable in their day. Haven’t we evolved to the point where we can look at the whole picture (pun intended), and say, “Yeah, people sure had a screwed-up way of looking at things back then,” but at least have the OPTION of viewing the entire film, cartoon, or what have you? Just think if someone decided for you that you could not read Huckleberry Finn because of its racism, or read early Bob Crumb comics for the same reason? For that matter, the same goes for beloved old cartoon violence. Notice how they excise some of the more comically violent scenes from old cartoons? I guess the censors think you are dumb enough to swallow a giant firecracker and blow yourself to smithereens.

I am ticked because I am a big fan of older movies and cartoons, and think it a travesty when someone chops them up so that we modern simpletons won’t get any ideas. When I was in Europe a month ago, I was shocked and delighted to see some old Tom & Jerry cartoons I had never seen before, and can only suppose that this was because the cartoon contained numerous racial references (very silly by today’s standards).

I recently saw Ben Vereen do a manificent “cakewalk” dance on television, as a memorial to the Ziegfeld Follies’ famous black performer (name forgotten at the moment). This is a rarely-seen dance nowadays, due to the fact, I suppose, that it was a popular dance in the old black-face minstrel shows. Ben Vereen took that dance and stood it on its ear. What a shame if this dance became extinct because of its negative associations.

The naked racism shown back then sucked, but please leave original artwork alone.

Finding a good middle ground would be better than forced P.C. but that may not be possible. I try to keep thing in perspective and remember that the good old days weren’t always as good as they seemed. (badly plagarized from Billy Joel). Casual racisism was commonplace everywhere from playground rhymes to the home and I for one am glad it’s not anymore.

Sadly, political correctness can go too far. Network TV could never show the uncut version of Blazing Saddles because of all the epithets used. It’s quite brilliantly anti-racist but most people don’t see past the bawdy humor to get to that.

PC has gotten out of hand. So if a movie shows a gladiator fight in ancient Rome does that mean we think it’s a cool thing to do? If we are intelligent enough to understand those people did it but we are different and we do not think it is OK, why can’t we understand the same thing with other values? Because, as a group, we are pretty dumb, that’s why.

So we see someone say the N word and we shiver all over but we see someone kill someone else and we think “what the heck, it’s only a movie”. Gimme a break.

Thanks for the reminder, Sailor And while I’m at it, in today’s movies, people can scream “nigger” at each other and then blow each other’s heads off, but that’s okay. THAT won’t corrupt us. But a moment of blackface or a black maid speaking in accurate accents for the time in which she lived must be obliterated or evil will come to us all. Aren’t we smart enough to handle it?

Wasn’t Huck Finn supposed to be anti-racist?
funny, I heard that people argued that when it came out, they said it was too ANTI-racist.

You can’t win.

It’s also worth noting that the racist content of older movies is reflecting our culture at that time. While some may look at “Song of the South” (which Disney is currently balking at re-releasing) and see the glorification of negative stereotypes, it could certainly be reconstrued to be a lesson to children in these more enlightened times, as well as an entertaining movie to those of us who are intelligent to make up our own minds.

I’d also like to point out the significant places in film history that are held by the racist films of D.W. Griffiths. Content aside, “Birth of a Nation” is a brillant leap forward in cinematic storytelling.

You know, I could go down to the library and borrow Triumph des Willens right now and it’s not like it would corrupt me. If Leni Riefenstahl is in, how could anything be out?

I figure it must be about covering up <i>American</i> wrongs. How else could Eisenstein have survived McCarthyism? If its in a foreign language its not as dangerous.

It all comes down to context: older cartoons, movies, books, etc. are all excellent ways of examining how ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc. were viewed by “mainstream” society at a given time. Some of the best insights to “popular” thought at any given time during the last 200 years or so is to look at political cartoons: they generally sum up whatever conflict (political or military) is all about, in the broadest terms.

However, putting the example into some kind of wider context is important: making judgement on the past from one particular source (movie, television show, book, or whatever) can be highly misleading. Every author, artist, or writer brings their own values to bear, consciously or otherwise, when creating something. A cartoon about Jews from Der Sturmer (the official organ of the Nazi Brownshirts), for example, would represent one extreme fringe viewpoint, while a cartoon from a US or British newspaper of the time would most likely be more “mainstream.”

If older texts, scripts, etc. use language or portrayals that are now considered “racist,” or otherwise “inappropriate” they should not be censored or edited, but rather used–carefully, and in context–to illustrate the mores of the time they were produced, and to provoke discussion about how stereotypes are created and perpetuated. Censorship teaches nothing–using the Nazi film “The Eternal Jew,” for example, to show how a government uses propaganda to indoctrinate the general population with anti-religious or anti-ethnic bias (an extreme case, admittedly), is far more valuable than banning the film or cutting out those parts which are now objectionable (which would not leave much of the film!). But-- and this is important-- the audience would need to be prepared for the film, have its historic period explained, and be given some historic framework in order for the full meaning of the film to be placed in context. To show it without some kind of comment or context guide to a general audience would most likely be inappropriate.

I’m dead against the censorship of historical documents of any nature: any tampering with the content will destroy their historical value. Once you begin “adjusting” the past, you have altered the context of that document totally. Either show it uncut, or not at all. You need to educate the audience about the historic background of what they are seeing, and what the larger historical trends were that surround that particular movie, cartoon, book, etc. It is far more healthy, to face up to how minorities (of whatever type) were portrayed in history than to put on a happy face and sweep things under the carpet: on the contrary–shine as bright a light as possible on them, and take a good, hard look.

For example:

I have a display running currently dealing with the WWII homefront here in British Columbia. One of the artifacts on display is an official House Of Commons speech by a local Member of Parliament, entitled “JAPS MUST GO!” This piece deals with the anti-oriental movement here on the west coast during WWII. Even though the word “Jap” is now considered offensive, if I were to change the title of the speech, or pretend that the word “Jap” was not in daily use during the period in question, I would be grossly misrepresenting the state of affairs historically. I have balanced the use of this speech with quotes from the Canadian Prime Minister of the day saying that at no time did he consider Japanese-Canadians a threat (although he still interned them!)

I heard the Pentagon has permanently taken down displays of historical headlines that include the word “Japs”. Personally, I don’t even see the problem with the word, considering it’s derived from nationality (like “Brits” or “Ruskies” or “Yanks”) instead of race or skin color or whatever. But then I’m not Japanese so I guess I don’t have a say in the matter.

I recently acquired the Cabin Fever set of “our Gang” and “little rascals” Shorts. I was pretty surprised when I found that they were “uncensored”.I had thought Someone had bought the rights and they had been destroyed.They were very popular when I was growing up.((early seventies)) Man,did they have alot of racial remarks!

I do remember when growing up a Little Rascals episode where the end made no sense. It involved a girl and a doll, then jumped to a big chase. I later found out that there was a switch from a white to a black doll which got cut out.

The craziest example of pc is editing the Three Stooges. I had the pleasure in the 80’s of seeing an uncut version. It was played before The Rocky Horror Picture Show at the Alabama theater in Houston. It was a Gone With The Wind spoof. Curly was hollering “my baby…”. When they showed it it was a black baby. Racist? Maybe, but funny. My response to all this is why? Here are the stupidest white guys making fools of themselves, the racist humor is minor compared to these morons.

I don’t consider the things mentioned so far as “censored.”

These are the rightful owners showing their property as they see fit, not selectively editing them by government decree.

If they want to edit certain scenes, or not show something at all, it’s their prerogative.

I don’t like it either, but that’s one of the trade-offs of recognizing property rights.