wag The Dog!!! :d
You must be right, luci. The answer certainly couldn’t be that the letters and other information are resulting from the efforts of people who are risking their lives to get it.
Nope, you guys have nailed it. There isn’t any actual terror threat at all. It’s all a cynical attempt by the Bush administration to scare us into compliance and complacency. Thank heavens that we have ideological warriors such as yourself to show us the way.
Enjoying the echo chamber?
Yeah, but you think that instead of risking their lives for dribs and drabs of information they’d risk their lives to find the guy.
Oops. We need a boogedyman. I’d forgotten.
Carful, kids, or Osama^h^h^h^h^hSaddam^h^h^h^h^h^h some Ayrab will casbrate you in your sleep!
-Joe, Osama who?
Where’s Osama? Why does Porter Goss say we can’t get him because of reasons of “national sovereignty”? When Afghanistan was harboring Osama, they forfeited their national sovereignty. So why aren’t we going after him? Is it because A) we’re stretched thin getting our asses kicked in Iraq or b) because while Osama is still at large he makes a great boogy man to scare us with when the ruling party gets in a bit of a tight spot?
But I already know what the answer is going to be: c) It’s all very secret and complicated and we can’t tell you for your own good. Now shut up and give the oil companies some more money.
There aren’t any apologists on the board that I know of. Those of us who think Bush has done okay in office simply snicker at threads like these.
Doesn’t strike you as being a bit odd? That we have penetrated AlQ’s security to such an extent that we can intercept their most secret communiques - not once, but several times! - and yet still can’t find the guys themselves? Nothing strange about that in your eyes? Can’t put hand to the people, but haven’t the slightest problem reading their mail?
Making shit up and attributing said shit as an opinion of your rhetorical opponent is called a “strawman”. It is widely held to be contemptible.
You could look it up. I even spelled it for you.
Well hell. The administration has been making shit up for years.
That’s been my question for years.
We’ve had plenty, and they all just parroted administration lies, or made up their own lies. Bush has been a major fuck-up since Day One. Where is Osama. Why if we are safer now are all these terror plots continuing? Why is there always a terror alert or a “successful prevention of a previously nonexistent attempt” always so closely timed to homegrown political problems? How can/are we interepting these email messages so easily, but can’t grab the baddies? Probably because the messages are fake. They are about as true as the “evidence” of WMD and Iraq/OBL links were - Remember Colin Powell who presented this crap to the UN declared it to be crap after he quit in disgust - verifying what Wilson and the CIA had already said. Why did we farm out OBL to his local warlord buddies when we had him trapped? Where is he? His own party is starting to turn against him, little by little. DeLay, Libby, Frist and Rove are being looked at. There was just another Israel/WhiteHouse espionage incident. Apologists have been decreasing in number, because they can’t pretend anymore. Now your boy Bush claims God tells him what to do. Yeah. God told him to lie, fabricate doctored evidence, start wars etc. Anyone who continues to defend him goes way beyond loyalty and crosses over into idolatry and willful stupidity.
Besides, the only arguments are “stay the course”, “yer with us or against us”, “america haters”, “freedom haters”, “traitors”, “God” blah blah blah. At this point, the only reason I don’t snicker at the apologists is, they’re too fucking pathetic and stupid.
Yes, after someone reads them to you, slowly…
Now, lets be fair, Doc. Many sufferers of CD (Cognitive Dissonance - the Number One threat to the Republic!) have perfectly adequate reading skills, they are simply unable to assemble the recieved information in a meaningful, rational construct. Though similar in effect to shitwittedness, it is not quite the same.
So when your CD volunteer comes calling, think of poor Clothahump and give, and give generously!
Yes, give until he hurts!
Both of you?
Probably. Given the leftist tilt of the SDMB, I’m not sure there are very many moderates or conservatives left around any more. Most of them probably just lurk.
And please note, all of you dipshits who posted the snarky responses: I did say those that think he’s doing okay in office. Not great, but okay. I’ve got some reasonably large bones to pick with him about his failure to secure our borders and his failure to spearhead meaningful tax reform. His grade from me, overall, has slipped from a B to a C-.
I predict it won’t. Shall we place a little wager on it?
Allow me to explain the sequence of events that make this possible.
- Soldiers find safe house of terrorist.
- Soldiers grab anything that could be of intelligence value, (papers, cell phones, computers) and take them for intelligence analysis.
- Intelligence is examined for time-critical information. If any unknown subjects or locations are named, the information is kept quiet and the places/people are monitored in the hopes of capturing more intelligence or a high-value target.
If you’ll remember, the contents of this letter were only released after some of the information was made public that the administration said was inaccurate. Since the intelligence value was thereby comprimised, the letter was released. Additionally, if you’ve been paying attention, you’ll note that the entire contents of the letter were not made public.
If you don’t want to believe that any of the above happens, I can’t help you. You can continue to find comfort in the ideological blanket in which you seem to have wrapped your brain.
My intention was to make my point with sarcasm and hyperbole rather than employ a strawman. But getting a reprimand coming from someone who has never employed a strawman in his life has affected me deply. I stand in abject subjugation waiting for your forgiveness.
Not necessarily. We’ve nabbed a few top guys, so we probably got some of their documents and/or computers, too. Although it does seem that there is more than 1 number 2*. We even got Zarqawi’s laptop (supposedly). There might, in fact, be some comminiques saying how they’re kicking **our **butts, but I wouldn’t expect those e-mails to be made public.
Who are you?
I am Number 2.
Who are the other Number 2s?
You caught them again. All those soldiers in Afghanistan and Pakistan are just going through an elaborate dance of deception…some of them dying to keep the charade in place.
Possibly lying dead following the earthquake that hit that region of the world today.
Evil One, think about it for a minute.
If US Intel had a source that enabled them to intercept messages with that much value to US national security, would they reveal it for public knowledge, and therefore burn their sources and destroy the chances of intercepting future messages???
How is that a possibility in your scenario???
I mean, without also conceding that this is the most incompetent bunch of yahoos to sit in government since who knows when.
Or perhaps a more sinister explanation that requires copious amounts of tin foil and the ability to withstand ridicule?
I feel like I’m living in a cartoon.
We’re not even sure there if Osama bin-Laden is still alive. Or ever suffered from kidney problems.
Egotist te absolvo*. Go, and sin no more.