My life as the old fox/goose/grain conundrum

Anyone who’s read my recent threads knows that (1) I am getting a divorce after 20 years and (2) planning to relocate to the Portland, Oregon area. Both the STBX and I are working to get this over with quickly - the kids are nearly 18 and she’s not arguing division of assets - so I could be ready to jump by late July or early August. She would like me gone the day I can go, and extra time in the house would come at the highest cost in every respect.

I’m in southern New England. Google says it’s 3003.8 miles from my town to the Portland suburb of Gresham.

So my life has turned into something that looks a lot like the old “get the fox, the goose and the grain across the river when you can only carry two at a time” conundrum. Assuming all the details are wrapped up legally, at the end I will be standing at the gate with the following situation:

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[li]…all my goods packed for transport in a nearby storage unit, except for a few last things for daily living. It’s probably about a 10x10 unit’s worth, not packed very tightly. Boxes of books, some big shop tools, some middling furniture, and the rest cases of stuff (well weeded, I hope).[/li][li]…that includes a very precious project car that rolls but is not drivable. A part of the above is the pile of boxed parts and so forth to complete it.[/li][li]…two Great Danes, one elderly.[/li][li]…one adult daughter, not elderly (and with her small amount of stuff figured in above.[/li][li]An Odyssey that we used to move 4 people plus 2 Danes from CA to Nwingland. I have a rear-kennel screen for it, so the back third will be the dogs’, I will probably ship at least one middle seat if not both to give room for “get started” cargo, and the two of us up front. I don’t want to use a cartopper; it was a nightmare coming out (limited my road speed, especially in high-wind areas).[/li][/ul]
So all that has to get to the new living situation, in some reasonably expeditious fashion. However, I (we) have…

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[li]No employment prospects in Portland. My daughter will probably be working waitstaff or equivalent by the end of day 2 (she’s pretty, agile, personable and experienced) but I will be a hard hire at my age and situation.[/li][li]No living arrangements in Portland. A decent rental with two giant dogs is going to to be a tough find, even though I am a sterling tenant in nearly every other respect.[/li][li]No healthcare as yet - I have to investigate how CT state insurance translates for the interim and on what basis I can get what insurance under OR offerings. I think I qualify for OHP with little or not initial income and can ride that until I qualify for employer coverage or the next tier of 'Bamacare. Assuming it still exists.[/li][li]Not one person known in the Portland area. A few Dopers have stepped up with info (public and PM and email) but I am not the type to impose on an e-relationship, certainly not to this level. Nor is that a back-handed request for anyone to go past info, advice and maybe a contact or two.[/li][/ul]
So the fox, goose and grain weigh a shit-ton, the boat is tiny and the river is wide. Time is of the essence - I need to have this worked out in no more than May-June-July, and having the major pieces in place would be a huge relief.
I am open to any and all thoughts about how to manage this and make our arrival over the Cascades a joyful thing, and not a white-knuckle o-shit-here-we-go.

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[li]Ideas on how to find employment, for someone who’s mid-50s, tremendously experienced and skilled and willing to take on a wide range of jobs in the graphics. publication, presentation, PR, communications etc. field… but has been self-employed for a long time and is coming out a dismal era of minor clients, committee-driven work and a shopworn portfolio? (Ask me how much I effing hate New England in this respect).[/li][li]Ideas on how to find a decent rental house with a dog yard - a little downscale is okay if it’s not Shitsville - for someone who is the best possible tenant excepting his two giant (lazy) dogs… and is a very skilled handyman, reno guy and light contractor? (E.g., I’ll fix all damage as it might happen, and would be prepared to upgrade the place on a continuing basis.)[/li][li]I would consider buying right off, but I’d really like to have six months to a year for things like employment, familiarity with the area, my daughter’s situation etc. to stabilize before I drive an anchor that deep in the ground. It also looks as if a large part of the divorce assets won’t reach me until the STBX sells the house next fall - I could leverage my cash assets and a mortgage into a purchase sooner, but for many reasons waiting a year is probably good. So a good, safe, comfortable, dog-friendly rental with a livable Portland commute would be a huge plus.[/li][li]Health insurance. Anyone moved in to OR and swapped plans under ACA etc. and can tell me tips to make it easy and safe from loss or gap in coverage?[/li][/ul]
I think that’s the basics. I am resigned to the divorce and will miss my (college-bound) kids, with whom I am very close (I’ve been the more stay-home parent for them), but right now it’s all this forward effort, and even as a stable person who’s far from broke, I’m finding it a little scary. Tell me some nice stories. :slight_smile:

Craigslist has rental houses; you have options-boxes to check to weed out the no-goes. Some listings have a map attached which you can scroll in/out to get your bearings. Worth a shot.

How’s your transporting situation? If you haven’t finalized that yet, let your daughter drive your car with K9s, luggage and travel cosmetics, while you drive a Penske truck (going out on a limb and saying they’re better than U-haul)–probably a 10 or 14 footer–with an auto transport hooked up to the rear with Project Car secured. You can get extra rental days (e.g., takes 7 days to get there, pay for 14, crash at 2nd Best Western til you find a rental house [we found one in 2 days; we had a list with us when we landed]).

When you arrive, inquire with the police as to where the better neighborhoods are. Desk clerks might have an idea, as well.

No idea re mountain driving, sorry.

One thing that has worked for me more than once, is to run your own situation wanted ad: “Responsible male seeks 2BD rental house, non smoking, with small yard for dog”.

This approach has landed me rentals in otherwise brutally tight markets, and I was just a run-of-the-mill working schlub. Some renters might feel more comfortable or motivated contacting you, rather than going through the regular screening process for 30 potential renters.

Good luck, Portland is a great city!

Yeah, the problem is I have to do nearly all of this from 3000 miles away. I will almost certainly fly out and back some time shortly before the transfer, but I can’t find a rental in two or three days without a lot of prep work. CL and such tends to list fast, rent fast. An agent (especially one interested in a later sale) is probably my best bet. But any ideas along those lines are welcome.

Right now I don’t intend to try to drive that distance in anything but the Odyssey; shipping stuff is not the cheapest option but driving a huge truck that far, under the time crush, mountain driving, no relief driver, and then very quickly having to unload it (probably to a storage unit) makes me weary just thinking about it.

Probably (1) all stuff to local storage; (2) load PODS or about half an ABF trailer from the storage unit (did this before, with 3 ABF trailers!); (3) drive across with shipped stuff to be held for a few days if we’re not ahead of it; (4) unload shipment into storage unit. If we rent, I may not move everything out of storage for a while. The car will be shipped closed-carrier (got to ride with a Lamborghini and a Porsche GT3/RS last time… and the Cobra got all the attention from people watching the loading. (Cobra is getting sold.) I will probably have to make arrangements for the car shipping a week or two after we arrive, rather than try to play Calvinball with it.

Not a bad idea. As long as the neighborhood isn’t banger central, and the house is relatively secured, two big dogs go a long ways towards household safety. I can tolerate just a little less family-friendliness than in prior times, at least until I buy.

Thanks.

Yes, being shudder proactive on both job and rental fronts was a considered strategy.

Put all your stuff in storage containers that can be kept in storage wherever you move to. Do it now to clear out your house and make it easier to sell (if you believe as I do people prefer to buy a house that looks like a blank canvas instead of already accoutered and decorated in your style). Live off the minimum set of worldly goods until you are well situated.

Try to arrange contracts from clients still here in the Og-forsaken northeast so you have income and something to do until you get settled.

See if you can arrange time for your kids to visit while your looking at place to settle in. You don’t want loneliness and uncertainty affecting your decisions.

Moving a pair of Great Danes cross country will be tough. I don’t what to do about that. If they don’t mind travel by car take a lazy trip where you can stop at a lot of parks and give them plenty of new things to smell.

I hope it all goes smoothly for you. There will certainly be some bumps along the way but hopefully nothing that would add to your stress. I feel for you Barbarian, it’s a tough part of life for you, but I hope you can make it an opportunity instead of an upheaval. Stay on the Dope, we’ll support you.

Like TriPolar suggests, there’s storage companies like Pods that double as local storage and shipping. you could look into that.

No need to ask the police. You can usually find crime maps of big cities online nowadays.

You’re right, you’ll need prep work. If you can’t swing a pre-move visit with a bunch of rental viewings lined up, I guess you could use Google street view to get a sense of the neighborhoods.

ABF seconded. I’ve done that cross country and the Penske truck route. Take the ABF. They will also store your stuff for you for a reasonable monthly fee in Portland (did that bit too).

Polish up the old resume/LinkedIn and it’s time to start sharing it. Your details sound very employable, but I can’t start doing my bit (the networking, 'natch) until I’ve got something to network. Free service to Dopers. :wink:

Realistically, you may have to plan for a bit of “Extended Stay America” type hotel living once you get here, until you find a place to live. It’s just really hard to do it remotely. If you could fly out a month or so before hand and see some of the areas in question, you might be able to find something (I was able to do it that way) but there are no guarantees.

Or rather, since you do intend a visit on more careful reading, you could use Google street view to weed out some listings.

Insert brief interval for repeated thanks here.

Yes, PODS or ABF with storage for a week or two seems to be the way to go - not the cheapest, but not terribly expensive either and solves a number of issues.

We aren’t selling the house, which was my first expectation. So I have the luxury of storing everything I want, discarding or selling the rest, and not worrying about every box of moldy vanilla wafers. (Points for the reference.) The STBX will sell the house next fall - which makes a lot of thing her problem.

We already brought the dogs one way across the US, so I know the drill. If you call ahead to pet-friendly motels, they are surprisingly accommodating and we stayed in some very nice places to boot.

And yeah, I will have to put boot to Portlandia ground shortly ahead of the move. An expense that really can’t be skipped, but I will hopefully leave with lease and keys in hand and have that comfort of actual, real destination driveway and not whatever ExtendedPainAmerica is in the area.

As a landlord I wish you luck. Really. No recent rental history, no previous landlords to contact. No verifiable income. 2 big dogs. (some landlord ins. policies won’t allow dogs over a certain weight.) A project car (think rebuilding in the driveway) Even your pending but not final divorce can count against you. (people change their minds in domestic situations)

Why Portland? No job, no living arrangements, no friends or family support. Why are you going there? It sounds like you are making a tough situation more difficult than it has to be.

Because I have absolutely no specific place to be, and staying here (even in the area) isn’t an option. There is no family center for me to go/return to, and my adult kids are scattered from California to Dublin. So it’s a total restart on every front.

Portland was the winner from a weed-down list of about ten places that interested me and had both decent weather and an economic climate that might actually translate to employment for me. Nowhere in New England does, and I wish I’d known that before moving here to have my career stall and my marriage burn out. F*ck this place.

I know all this, which is why I’m asking for ideas and such.

I do have… notable net worth. And things like the project car can stay in storage, or stay in the garage, out of sight, given enough space. (It’s a fully-restored '68 Mustang in the process of putting all the last bits in, not some street rod I am still welding together.)

I am happy to pay security deposits, damage bonds, supplementary insurance… whatever. My ideal situation would be with an understanding dog owner, where I can arrange to leave the place in significantly better condition when I leave through repairs and upgrades.

Also because once I pack, load, store, and hit the road, it matters very little whether I move 100 miles or 3,000. Exact same effort, problems, costs, etc. with slightly variable driving time. No reason to stay in the Rust Belt, midwest or any closer than Denver (my number 2 choice).

An experienced landlord would NOT allow you to make repairs and upgrades.

Depends. I’ve been on all sides of the equation and yes, those who are in the biz for the long run with their string of 3/2s and duplexes want nothing but the narrowest, smoothest sail with no interruption of revenue.

However, I’ve been part of family-inheritance deals where the house couldn’t be sold soon, wasn’t in 100% rentable condition, but needed a tenant for revenue, security and - as a bonus - ongoing improvements. There are other situations where it’s more of a partnership deal than a Joe Q. Renter + Portland Home Rental Systems LLC thing.

It can work out well with the right players. Since I have no fear of being taken advantage of - e.g., I might put more into the deal than they do - I can be flexible.

You could ask on the Portland forum on city-data, or just doing some reading there might help.

Yeah, it’s amazing how much a pile of money can smooth over all sorts of problems.

Trying to save money is liable to cost you even more money in the long run so you just have to resign yourself to papering over the cracks with lots and lots of pictures of Benjamin Franklin.

5 years ago I did almost exactly what you are doing. It isn’t as hard as it used to be.

I moved from Idaho near Canada to Dallas TX. From my owned house to a rental. With 2 medium sized dogs (compared to yours).

We did take a 2 day trip in advance. All rentals are online. They come with maps and pictures. You probably need a nearby park to walk the dogs. Start there. Look at the maps attached to the rentals, find nice big areas for the dogs, look at nearby rentals.

We then used (I believe a regular) real estate agent to drive around and look at houses during our advance trip. We had already scouted areas online.

You can tell bad neighborhoods pretty readily while driving around looking at houses. Check cashing businesses, empty storefronts, and thrift stores should not predominate.

I had no problem renting a nice house in a nice neighborhood. I think home ownership negates no rental history.