Really? What’s the difference?
No. I’ll say what I said and I wasn’t upset with what the dad didn’t do but with what the dad did do.
Fuck me, can’t you guys fuckin read ?!
Really? What’s the difference?
No. I’ll say what I said and I wasn’t upset with what the dad didn’t do but with what the dad did do.
Fuck me, can’t you guys fuckin read ?!
Please, indulge me… heck, EDUCATE me!
Dutchman, you’re just not getting it, so let me explain what you should have done.
Everything up until the point where the kid ran into you is perfectly understandable. I’ve been in similar situations. But it was at this point when you turned into a dick. You should have said something along the lines of “whoa there, little man” as the kid struggled past you. Then look at his Dad, shrug, and say “sorry, man” and go about your way.
Now maybe you’re not sorry. Maybe you’re not “fine” when somebody asks “how are you?”, either, but you’re supposed to say it anyway. It’s how the world works. You didn’t offer so much as a polite “excuse me”. That’s what made you the asshole in this.
The rules for this type of thing aren’t written in stone. But walking off silently without even acknowledging either of the two’s presence, stewing about it, letting it “ruin” your whole day, and getting yourself so worked up that you had to start a pit thread makes you a passive aggressive little weasel. You keep trying to make excuses with your bullshit about entry and exit protocol, but there’s a lot of kids in a Mickie D’s and there are no traffic cops working the doorways. Deal with it and show at least the minimum of social graces next time.
That guy didn’t ruin your day. You did.
Except in 5 to 10 minutes the person who missed their train gets on the next train and their day is back on track. The person to missed their stop is at the next stop… which is the wrong stop and is another 5-10 minutes worth of waiting for a train going the other direction or 5-10 minutes of train speed distance in walking to get to the right stop.
People exiting have right of way.
I’m gonna leave the train/elevator vs stationary building thing alone for a while. If you can’t see why letting people off of something that’s moving away is the sensible thing to do, then we are living in different Universes-- whatever.
I want to talk about The Flying Dutchman’s total self-absorption and Kingly sense of entitlement and those who use “the rules of civilization” to justify them.
The dad opened the door for his son. The Flying Dutchman walks through the door and into his kid while staring at Dad. Dad grumbles that The Flying Dutchman should look where he’s going.
From this we get the TFD had the right of way through the door so therefore he was thoroughly justified for walking into that kid. How does TFD have this right of way? Because the rule says that if anybody opens a door, it’s gotta be for him. And anyway, the kid was 5 and short. If your short and 5 you can’t expect TFD to worry about you-- especially since 5 year olds run and are annoying.
What happened to politeness? Apparently it has been co-opted by rude!
Who was behind a wall and Dutchman likely does not have X-ray vision.
And that changes that the guy opened the door for his son exactly how?
Dutchman had eye contact with the other guy, who apparently did nothing to indicate that he was holding the door someone else. Dutchman, not being able to read the guy’s mind nor see the kid through the wall, had no way of knowing what the guy was doing. So Dutchman, who was already in the doorway, decided to proceed through.
Sounds perfectly logical to me.
Exactly.
It’s a five year old kid. They’re easy to trip over. In my mind, it’s not the collision that makes The Flying Dutchman such an ass, it’s how he reacted to it.
I dunno, I wasn’t there, but if I had a minor accident which involved me bumping intio a five-year-old, I think I’d apologize without any really rigourous analysis of who was at fault, right-of-way, etc., unless the kid was ramming me deliberately … similarly, if my five-year-old was involved in such a collision, I’d apologize on his behalf (if the kid didn’t on his own) - again, unless the adult was intentionally running into the kid.
In short, one or the other would be saying “I’m sorry” and the other “think nothing of it”, or words to that effect - it really doesn’t matter all that much who.
just for the record, I agreed with letting people exiting off the train or elevator come off first. I was just finding Biggirl’s* reasoning* a little melodramatic. It’s all the same PITA to me - missing getting on, or missing getting off.
You let people exit first because it makes more room for people to enter. Period.
potatoe, potahtoe
carry on
I can read this :
It sounds like you are pissed that he **didn’t ** teach his kid manners. Right?
As for the father, I"m not going to apologize for something that wasn’t my fault though that is what I normally do, when I’m given that stoney glare.
Nothing is ever your fault, is it?
No, not at all. I was never perturbed by the kid. After I regainerd my composure following the father’s criticism, it was easy enough to turn the criticism back on him. If the father hadn’t said anything, you wouldn’t even have heard from me and the collision might very well have already been forgotten forever.
No.
Huh? Who said you were? I said you were pissed *at the dad *for not teaching the kid manners. Weren’t you? Here’s your quote again. Bolding mine.
Sure sounds like you are pissed. And pissed at something he did not do, i.e, teach manners to his kid. Did I read it wrong?
OK, you get points for that.
I love a two letter post. It shows an understated wit. I still disagree with you, but that was funny. It pains me, but I gotta give you props.
I have learned a valuable lesson from this thread, and for that I thank The Flying Dutchman:
In the future, when exiting an establishment, while I am holding the door for my 5-year old child, I will instruct him to exit the store quickly, with his head down, his right arm extended, with a balled fist at the end… at crotch level.
Most humble appreciations!
Yes