My name is Little Nemo and I have a Castle addiction

I go for the bulletproof vest theory too. I kinda guessed at Montgomery’s death but didn’t know it was because he was “dirty”. Nice to see everyone in their dress blues.

I’m so glad I’m not the only one who thought that! It was very Mal. Except Mal never would have told Beckett (Inara) he loved her.

Well, he announced his retirement. It was inevitable.

So what are we thinking, since Beckett is obviously not dead? I’m guessing it’s all a setup; her death is faked so she can go deep undercover and kill the escaped prisoner dude. Afterwards, tension and feelings of betrayal from those characters who actually thought she was dead. Gradually, understanding is reached. Basically, the exact same plot Bones did. (we just call this show Bones Junior, or BoJu, in my house. Though Fillion’s far more awesome than Boreanaz. And I prefer Deschanel to Katic. Put those two together and I’d be all over it).

They can’t fake it for too long. 2-3 episodes at most. Otherwise it would be too big a re-working of the dynamic of the show.

Escaped Prisoner Dude is dead. Captain killed him with his hidden gun after he walked over to gloat after shooting the Captain.At this point there’s no leads on who the big boss is except whatever may be in the package we saw getting sent but we don’t know who it was sent to. All the minions are out of the picture and the living witnesses to the events aren’t living anymore.

That having been said, a lot of these sexual tension based shows jump the shark when they get the characters together. It’s really hard to keep that up.

Enjoy,
Steven

It doesn’t matter. I’m not sure that these spoiler tags are necessary anymore, but I’ll play safe anyway.

Nobody’s denying that he did some bad things, or that he was complicit in the cover up. To say that he was “nothing but a dirty cop,” however, is a rather unfair judgment – especially in light of the way he tried to make up for his sins, as well as nurture and protect Kate Beckett.

You know, I don’t know if I believe that. He talked about seeing her as a beat cop, investigating her mother’s death on her own time. He said that it was his chance for redemption, and maybe he told that lie enough that he sort of believes it.

But it is a lie. He brought her into his department so he could watch her, and control her, and make sure she never got too close. He continued to put up obstacles over the years, like falsifying records. He told Castle that he couldn’t get her to walk away from the case; because lord knows, he’s tried.

I’m certain that he was, in other respects, a good cop. But the primary motivator of his actions when it comes to Beckett is pure self-preservation.

I don’t see the point of her faking her death to go undercover. They have no leads to follow at the moment. And whoever shot at her obviously knows who she is by sight.

So I figure the shooting was real. She’ll survive, either due to a bullet-proof vest or a medical recovery. The point of the shooting was to give Castle a reason to declare his love and end the season with a cliff hanger, implausible as it was.

She wasn’t wearing a vest, according to this interview with the executive producer. I agree that she will survive, though.

The point of faking her death would be so that people will stop shooting at her. I don’t think the idea is that she would then infiltrate their organization - just that they would lay off hiring hit men for a while.

Glad the executive producer mentioned keeping the “Castle experience” several times. I’ve been concerned it might slip into another standard cop show.

Nothing in the story suggests that. True, he was asked to keep her on a short leash, but this doesn’t mean that he brought her in so that he could keep an eye on her.

Is it possible that Montgomery was just lying to himself all along… that he only wanted to keep Kate under scrutiny, and that he truly had no desire for redemption or doing right by her? Technically, yes… but there’s no reason to believe that this was the case. Quite the contrary; given the benevolent attitude that he has consistently displayed toward her, it’s unlikely that he was acting with secret malice toward her all along. In the absence of any such indications, I think it’s much more reasonable to take his words at face value.

So no, I see no reason to accept that explanation.

Just finally watched it. Don’t know if it was mentioned but after the shooting there was blood on her white dress gloves so she was definitely shot.

As for Montgomery, he may have done many good things in the intervening years, but he murdered someone and then spent the rest of his life trying to evade the consequences (something he presumably never allowed anybody else to do). He was a dirty cop.

He didn’t murder anyone - he was part of the coverup after the fact - he was part of a group of 3 cops that were kidnapping mob folks for ransom - the death of 1 (apparently not by the cops hands) - led to the ‘unknown person in charge’ to pressure the three cops into giving up the ransom money they had and eventually led to the death of Kate’s Mom - still not entirely sure how, but presumably kate’s mom got evidence on that murder or soemthing about the “unknown person in charge”.

Montgomery did not directly kill anyone - least of all Kate’s Mom.

I did hear someone (probably Espoito) yell for Lainie after Beckett was shot, so presumably she’ll be called upon to save a life, instead deal with the corpse.

StG

He said that it was his gun that went off, when the first person died. So I’d call that not murder, but Montgomery killed him more than anybody else did. Accidental death, but felony manslaughter?

Esposito was yelling “Lainie, stay down!” So maybe her instinct was to go up to help Beckett, but Esposito was worried that the shooter could hit her too if she went.

If I recall the scene correctly - it was his gun, but he was not the one that fired it - someone else, during the commission of the abduction, got his gun and used it.

Yes, he was pushing her down to the ground as he yelled.

At least, that’s his story. I mean, no way would he lie to Beckett there, amirite? :dubious:

That wasn’t the death of her mother, that was the death of the gangster - while he has reason to lie (overall) about it - I don’t believe he was in this case - makes little sense to from a story perspective if A) hes about to die anyway and B) there is still someone else calling the shots - he needs to be as much a victim in some ways as others.