My neighbor divides women into three categories. The last is “rape-able.”

And now for context.

My across-the-street neighbor organized a community event for our subdivision for this weekend. Specifically it was a beautification project, an attempt to redress some of the urban blight that seems to attract crack houses and such. One of the projects was to mow the horribly overgrown lawn of a long-abandoned house on the intersection leading into the development, as it’s one of the first things a visitor to the area sees. Because this house has the largest yard by far of any in the neighborhood, and because it’s been abandoned so long, this was a job that was going to require several men.

Bum that I am, this is an activity I’d ordinarily avoid. But because this lawn is so flagrantly an eyesore–and probably a health hazard too–I decided to pitch in on that project if for nothing else. So I joined the half-dozen or so men who were clearing away junk in that yard preparatory to attacking it with mowers. I didn’t really know any of the men working in this yard except as people I wave to when driving out or walking to the bus stop.

Anyway…we were working on the lawn earlier. The work went faster than anticipated, happily, because there were more volunteers than the organizer expected, so by 2 o’clock the lawn was clear. The seven of us were sitting around sipping cold drinks when a cute girl walked by. Men being men, we naturally took a moment to appreciate the cute of her jib.

“Cute,” I said.

“Very cute,” somebody else said.

“Very, very cute,” other people in the group intone.

“She’s way past cute,” a fellow I’ll call Bill said. “I’d rape her all night long.”

There was a sudden, shocked silence.

“What?” I said eloquently.

“T’ain’t funny, man,” somebody else remarked. “Don’t be making jokes like that.”

“I ain’t making no joke,” Bill said with a grin. “Ain’t but three kinds of women in the world anyway. The kind you marry, the kind you ignore, and the kind you rape.”

More shocked silence. Bill continued to grin.

“Don’t be saying stuff like that,” somebody told Bill at last.

“Don’t you be telling me how to talk,” Bill said. “You guys all know it’s true, you just don’t admit it. If a woman’s good-looking and she don’t belong to nobody, she’s fair game. Only reason not to rape her is if you know you’ll get caught. If you thought you could get away with it, any one of you would rape that bitch. You all know I’m right…”

Bill offered to tell us how to best go about raping a woman like the girl in question. But as you might imagine none of us wanted to be in his presence any longer.

First chance I get I’ll be taking a picture of Bill so as to warn my sisters and nieces not to be in his company alone.

It sounds like such a naked attempt to be purposely offensive that it’s almost funny.

That’s takin’ the Madonna/whore complex to a new low. Keep that pic. handy, if you hear of any rapes in the area, send it to the cops. What a fuckin’ low life.

In my way of looking at things, rape isn’t sex, it’s violence.

That being said, tho, there are certain types of looks that do bring up an animal sexual lust in me. The kind of lust where you want to get her daisy dukes down her legs in a hurry, so you can bend her over the front fender of one’s Trans Am and do her in the butt.

But, she has to be cooperative for that to actually happen. Doesn’t stop the fantasy, tho …

Anyways, like most normal fellows, i would say no to rape, yes to animalistic, lustful, energetic, sloppy, nasty, hot SEX.

He sounds like someone that I would never trust, and he may be ready to rape somebody at the right opertunity. He’s already thinking about it, enough to mention it. I can hear this man telling the judge “She didn’t protest, so I knew she wanted it.” I have never been in a group of guys where raping a person was even spoken of in that manner. Only a mental unstable person would be saying that.

I’m heartened by the fact that, as you tell it, none of the rest of the men jumped in to agree with ‘Bill’.

Bill sounds like a psychopath.

A lot of my patients (inmates all) say stuff like that.

Where I grew up, many men felt that way and said it out loud. I loathed men for many years. Many, many years.

This story makes me feel like puking again. I almost want to hate men… but I know I don’t. Not all men really feel that way, deep down. But sometimes I have to chant that to myself. :frowning:

Blech. I just got the heebie jeebies. Thank Og for both my husband and reasonable, logical Doper men (and women) who have helped me keep perspective and to leave the large paint brushes with those guys that paint buildings instead of people. :stuck_out_tongue:

I’d just like to commend you and every one of the other men. This guy’s way out of line.

I can’t tell if it’s a deliberate attempt to be shocking or just wanton sociopathy. Either way it’s a dumbass thing to say at best, and rather frightening in general. That’s one man that needs to stay the hell away from about half the population.

Nah, only one sixth of the population. Three groups, remember?
But honestly, who says things like that?

What Bill said is the truth. Nothing more.

Look, since God created Eve, all women have been asking for it. Their very existence is an open invitation to rape, with their legs and their walking and their breathing, the sluts.

I sincerely hope this was an exceptionally moronic attempt at a whoosh…

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Wouldn’t he be a sociopath rather than a psychopath? He doesn’t seem delusional, just utterly amoral – no, hell, IMMORAL – and lacking in empathy.

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Apart from that–what do you guys think I and my fellow non-scuzzies in the Gardens should do? I mean, he hasn’t actually DONE anything that we know of an can prove–but I don’t want him within a hundred and fifty miles of any woman, and not within a hundred and fifty thousand miles of any woman I love. But we can’t go posting his picture or telling people “Yeah, Bill’s a wannabe rapist” without running afoul of slander laws, I shouldn’t think.

Skald, what is your location?

You don’t list your location, but I think we all would like to know if our loved ones might have to worry about this guy.

Uh, yes. Yes it was. You’re quite the clever one to have been able to deduce that all by yourself. :slight_smile:

The vast majority of guys who say things like that simply think they’re being macho. He’s probably just socially inept and clueless, but I think I might keep an eye on him. From a distance of course.

Sociopaths tend to feel empathy, just with non-traditional groups like their gang, their terrorist organization, their ballet troop, etc. Anyone outside their group is fair game.

Psychopaths lack all empathy for anyone.

Psychotics are delusional.

IIRC, it’s libel if it’s in print.

I would like to know where you live. That way I can stay far, far away from Bill.

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A comment like that, made about pretty much any woman I know, is sufficient provocation to offer him exactly one (1) chance to retract the statement, delivered in a tone of voice making it quite clear what the immediate consequence of failing to retract said statement will be. If he doesn’t back off, lay his sorry ass out.