My sexual encounter with a physiotherapist.

Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
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By the way, I didn’t mean to minimize the importance of this topic. Megaroo, it really burns me up that you were made to feel so uncomfortable by someone in whom you had placed your professional trust. Maybe I’m just feeling protective towards you after our amazing night in the photo studio (note to those who didn’t read my mash note thread: this is fictionalized), but I don’t like hearing about my pen pal being harassed.

It might have been a better idea to title this something like “I was sexually harassed by my physiotherapist” so sickos wouldn’t come in expecting to be titillated.

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Mega please call or email the following. We have to get this scumbag out of practice and out of our province.

Canadian Physiotherapy Association National Office
2345 Yonge Street; Suite 410
Toronto, Ontario M4P 2E5
Phone: (416) 932-1888 or 1-800-387-8679
Fax: (416) 932-9708
email: information@physiotherapy.ca
Don’t take this lightly. If he did it to you he has done it to others who may not be as brave as he is.
Keith

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make that"as brave as you are."

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Yeah, well, Chef, your name spelled backwards is “fehc”…switch a couple letters around…add an L.
Well, you know. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Mega, I came back in here on your topic because I’m still SO mad at that creep! But, he ISN’T just a creep, what he did is against the law. I wish Bluepony wasn’t MIA, though Billdo touched on this. PLEASE take this seriously. You were ‘sexually battered’, it’s a CRIME, which makes creepo a criminal, not just a pervert.

Just because you’re not sporting bruises and cuts, don’t underestimate what happened to you. This person needs to be in jail.

Judy

Sent…(MarkSerlin) you’re another example of someone being a ‘jerk’ and being able to stay on this board, degrading it with your presence. You’re beyond disgusting. Anyone who would advocate crimes against women as being ‘adventurous’ is a rapist waiting to happen.

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If you use all the letters in “Chef Troy,” you can make the following acronyms (among others):

FORT YECH (the ugliest Army base in the country)
FEY TORCH (The kind of torch song Harvey Fierstein sings)
TORY CHEF (there are lots of cooks that miss the old days of British rule)
HE FRY COT (There was nothing left to cook but this camp bed…get the ketchup)
FETCH ROY (he’ll eat anything - even a fried camp bed)
HE OFT CRY (I do not! That’s a mean thing to say! sobbing)
HEY, CROFT! (over here, Lara! I loved you in “Tomb Raider”…)

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I just wanted to clarify, from what I understand (and keep in mind that this is based on my general knowledge of U.S. law only without any special expertise in this area), the creep’s conduct was improper and unprofessional, but probably not illegal and almost certainly not criminal.

To summarize, something is criminal when you may be arrested, prosecuted, and put in jail or fined for doing it. As a licensed professional (which I assume he is) who made offensive comments and may have had incidental contact (through clothing) with his genitals in the course of the therapy, it is unlikely that this would considered any form of sexual battery. From your description, it does not appear that he actively molested you or did anything that would be grossly or obviously outside the bounds of legitimate phisiotherapy (though his comments and actions caused you to feel uncomfortable). His words and actions were disgusting and degrading, yes; but criminal, no.

Something may be illegal but not criminal, when someone who does it may be subject to civil remedies, including liability (payment for damages to the person injured) or injunction (a court order requiring that person stop). Though you were disgusted by the actions, you probably have not suffered sufficient legal injury to sustain a suit against him (and a much better thing to do would be just to try to forget about the creep).

Something is unprofessional when in may cause a licensed professional to have action taken against his or her license. Will your complaint alone cause him to lose his license? Probably not. If it is the only complaint against him, it may cause him an official reprimand or censure, but it was probably not serious enough on its own to cause him to lose his license.

That being said, I strongly suggest that you make an official complaint against him. First, if there are other complaints against him, they collectively may be enough to cause him to have his license suspended or revoked (or for him to lose his job if you complain to his employers). Second, even if it is the first complaint, it will stay in his file if others have the same sort of experience you did. Third, if you complain to his employer and the referring doctor, it will reduce the number of patients that he will be able to see (and, perhaps most importantly, keep him away from you).

Also, Odieman’s address and contact information for the Canadian Physiotherapy Association (http://www.physiotherapy.ca) is to a voluntary trade association of physiotherapists. Though I would recommend that you send a complaint to them, I would contact you provincial College of Physiotherapists. (From http://www.physiotherapy.ca/cpacoll.htm):

I would call the number for the Skatchewan College of Physical Therapists above (should be a local call) and ask them what their procedure for making a complaint about a practitioner is.

Please feel free to e-mail me if you have any questions or I can be of further assistance.

Bill

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Okay … we may be moving this into pit territory here but …

< Disgusted sarcasm > Hey, gosh, you’re right, Sentinel! Why, these women should just learn to enjoy unwanted sexual attention or advances. Hell if they didn’t want the attention, they wouldn’t dress like that in the first place, right? </Digsusted sarcasm>

Idiot.

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Eiss, well she did say ‘physio.’ Hey, what is that anyway? Never culd find anything in the dictionary that would fit.

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Well, ‘culd’ it be you spelled it incorrectly?? :rolleyes:

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I don’t believe it. I’m sorry, but the people on this board tend toward the reactionary side.

“I had my first physio. appointment.” Could it not be that you were apprehensive about the appointment as you didn’t know what to expect and particularly on edge? Perhaps you decided before you went that you were going to be uncomfortable being there and this, you feel, is a good excuse not to go back? You’ve already said you might not go back.

How old would you say Randall is? How long do you think he’s been doing what he’s doing? He’s probably been doing it long enough that one body part is that same as all the other body parts, fairly blase. That’s the way most adults think about body parts anyway.

“‘Wow! Are you ever flexible!’” Well, are you? If so, what makes it out-of-line for him to remark so?

“There is NO way I am going to stand here perky nipped and bend over so you can look down my shirt! So, I turned to the side. His response, ‘Well, I guess we can do it that way.’” It sounds to me like he was trying to do his job. How exactly was he going to look down you shirt anyway? If you’re bent forward someone’s head would have to be approximately 2.5’ off of the floor to see your nippedness.

The whole sag thing sounds like more of the same. He’s just doing his damn job. Oh, he moved around behind you big deal. You’ve got jeans on for Christ’s sake. Nothing to see down there but your skinny ass.

“I was wondering what relevance this had to what I was there for, when he said it had none. He just “wanted to see”.” What are you trying to imply he wanted to see?

“With his hand on my back feeling the movement of my vertebrates, he moved my legs up and down, ever so slightly rubbing them across his manliness.” Did the guy have a big fat boner going on? A man’s penis is usually tucked neatly between his legs unless he’s got an erection. Therefore, even the lower abdomen does not constitute “his maliness”.

Before you go off half cocked (no pun intended) and file some sort of official complaints or whatever, I’m sure there’s some sort of repository of professional conduct somewhere. If he’s done anything concretely overt it should be in a file somewhere. If it is, I apologize for this entire post and you may feel free to chastise me to no end. However, if the guy’s just doing his job you could be jeopardizing his career with some silly bullshit.

If he said something like, “Your nipples sure are pokey” or if his hand went a little past the bottom of your backbone (that would be like the coccyx as we learned in my “Ass bone” thread) then I’d be more inclined to believe something not quite right was going on. As it is, I think you’re full of shit.

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No, the people on this board tend to care about others.

No, I was not apprehensive about it at all. My mom has gone to physio. for years, and I hear about it all the time and knew very well what to expect. I said I may not go back to see HIM, and this is because yes, he did make me uncomfortable.

Yes, I am quite flexible. And it wasn’t at all out of line that he remarked it, just the WAY that he did.

If asking me to face him for that particular stretch was so important, why did he comply to my turning around? And as for seeing my ‘nippedness’, not only was he much shorter than I, but he was also sitting down.

I never thought anything BUT that he was doing his job, until the way he said what he did.

Okay, HE said it had no relevance and that HE just wanted to see. I implied dick all.

Ahem “Usually” you say? One point for you for realizing not all men do things the same way.

I said I wasn’t going back to the same office. The end.

Full of shit? I don’t even know how to reply to that seeing as all I did was tell what happened at my appointment.

Wow. This post really pissed me off.

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** mega, honey, please remember into every life a little jerk must fall, it’s unfortunate, I know, but the jerks fall on the just and the unjust. And in your case, it is certainly VERY big time, unjust. Don’t let the jerks of the world get you down. Okay?? **

Try remembering how many of us are kind and were listening, don’t hone in on the few jerks that rain down on you, just dry yourself off and stay out of the jerk rain, whenever possible. m’kay??? Take care. :slight_smile:

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Once again, Sentinel/Mark/Rainbow/Nit/etc has to come in for his courtesy creep comment.

Dude, stop living in a porno fantasy and wake up to reality: Women don’t like unwelcome advances. They’re creepy. At 19, I would have been terrified and seriously scarred by this guy, if mega’s depiction is accurate. At 27, I would mop up the floor with this freak, if only verbally.

Freak.

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GEEZ! What a bunch of stiff-necked buggers!

I was just joking around and, to me, the OP did not seem to be all that serious at first reading.

So, If I offended anyone, then I sincerely apologize!!

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Wow. I’m proud to be moderated by you, Eutychus55.

Meg: don’t pay any attention to inertia. Pay attention to your instincts. If they were telling you this guy was acting inappropriately, then pay attention to them. They might not always be right, but it’s worth it to err on the side of caution. I refer to it as my “psychoalarm” or my “slimeball alert.”

A call to the licencing board that Billdo suggested might be a good idea. You don’t have to identify yourself or the slimeball, just explain what happened without using any names, and ask what the disiplinary action is. Then decide if you want to go through the trouble. But DEFINATELY tell the doctor that refered you, in confidence, about the incident. You have doctor/patient confidentiality on your side. Good luck, and if you need to vent, feel free to e-mail me.

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None of your OP’s seem all that serious to any of us. Yet you make a huge scene whenever we make fun of you.
Which, admittedly, is all the time.

Sorry, Serlin. You must realise by now that your function on these boards -if any- is not that of the Court Jester. Too many people despise you for that.

As this is not the Pit, I shall conclude by wishing you a nice day.

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Mega, that sucks. I have a sister around your age, and am currently thinking dark thoughts.

How are you doing now? The whole doctor/patient dynamic (even if Big Chief No Clue isn’t a real doctor)can put one in a vulnerable position, and crap like that can pretty much redline the ol’ Skeeve-o-Meter for a while. As others have said, alerting someone, even just the doctor who referred you, might be an option worth exploring.

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Mega, I am thrilled to hear you won’t be going back. But I still want to encourage you to report the guy. Even if they laugh you off, even if nothing comes of it, the complaint is on file. If anyone else brings charges, should he ever become more brazen, he’ll have a record of file. One voice can be ignored, but two are a little harder.

Please, for the sake of all women who may have this Randall in the future, file a complaint. We’ll cheer you on! We’ll support you!

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Perhaps I typed too soon. I did see she wrote ‘physiotherapist’ this is a physical therapist, not a shrink by any stretch of the imagination. physical therapists must check the patients out throughly to know what to do for them. Just like in ballet, sometimes there are going to be mis-touches, they might be unintentional or intentional.

I’d call a licensing board & see if they have any other complaints about him.

On the other hand, you do need your treatment so NEXT TIME take someone with you!