Legislators voted unanimously to ban the use of e-cigs indoors in Tompkins County, New York today. I’ve only seen one small news blurb about it so far. In the very *definition *of ignorance, it sounds like they didn’t bother doing any research at all:
“If there are people who vote against me because I support banning e-cigarettes, I’m good with that, as long as I don’t have to pay for their lung cancer treatments and oxygen bottles that they have to carry around at the end of this.”
Wat? This asshole make less sense than Ted Nugent 2 hours into a kegger. It’s not a tobacco product, dumbshit. The exhaled glycerin vapor is the same stuff used in asthma inhalers. I’ve been smoking my e-cig at work for 16 months and nobody can even detect it unless I blow it into their face. I even sit near two people who SHOULD object to e-cigs, if anyone would. One is a former smoker with the nose (also face) of an old hound dog. The other has lots of health problems and is very sensitive to odors/chemicals. Neither has ever objected, in fact both have explicitly told me they’re cool with it.
Fucking dick legislators fucking shit up for no fucking reason. I’ll take it outside,* but I’m goddamn grumpy about it.
What else besides glycerin is in the vapor you exhale?
Do you know?
Why is that the only substance that you mentioned in your post?
Can you assure me that there are no carcinogens in that vapor?
Do you think lawmakers should make laws based on the opinions of two people who are “cool with it” or should they take into consideration the effects of vaping on a wider sampling of people, such as those who have asthma (as I do) and who might react differently (as I do)?
Decades ago as a kid I remember someone complaining to my parents they did not want me using my asthma inhaler indoors, they were like who knows what he is exhaling.
In a free society the onus of answering those questions should be on lawmakers not the OP. I prefer legislating things because they are harmful, not because they could be. And by harmful I don’t mean that one part per zillion of nicotine per air your getting from that person vaping 30 feet away, or outdoors.
The pen type vaporizers don’t produce much vapor to begin with(the newer larger mods and RDAs are goddamn cloud machines) and if you hold in your inhale for 10-20 seconds there is zero visible vapor on exhale BUT the nicotine hits you a lot harder.
Do this and hold the vaporizer like you’re holding a pen and putting it to your mouth(lots of people do this while thinking etc.) and no one can even notice it, I do this to vape discreetly indoors.
On a purely intellectual level, I don’t suppose anyone should consider it to be so. It might be instructive, however, to learn how such a product would be received by the vaping market.
Interesting sidebar, in his autobiography Malcolm X wrote that quitting cigarettes was one of the hardest things he ever did, including quitting heroin.
Besides, I *did *quit. I quit smoking cigarettes in January of 2013. I breathe like a nonsmoker now. I smell things and taste things like a nonsmoker now. Although the research is incomplete, many doctors have stated that e-cigs are demonstrably less harmful than cigarettes. It’s ignorant to claim otherwise.
Nicotine is not risk-free, but on its own it’s not a particularly dangerous substance. An e-cig won’t kill you unless you drink the liquid concentrate. Caffeine is lethal in concentration, too.
I’d feel free to front the lobby of folks looking to legally challenge the constitutionality of the county ordinance.
Given the amount of damaging substances floating around in any space, interior or exterior, office or home (absent a hospital-grade air cleaning system anyway), I always find it fairly humorous that folks focus on peculiar trees like this.
I am all for banning e-cigs anywhere smoking is banned.
I don’t want to have to deal with the emissions of your nasty-ass habits indoors, whether it’s tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke, or this unregulated, untested, unstudied “vapor” made with god knows what.
Yes, you know where you bought your vapor, and you think you know what’s in it, but I sure as fuck don’t and I don’t want to have to worry about it solely because you made a bad decision 20 years ago and haven’t managed to reverse it yet.
