It must have been awhile since you’ve been here. The smog’s long gone. Now if you look down on the buildings from the Hancock, you’re more likely to notice all of the plants and greenery planted on the tops of buildings to help the air, one of the few things Daley did right.
When you can smell the perfume from two tables over, then yes, ban perfume.
e-cigs should have hired e-lobbyists.
Right, I see what you mean. Personally, I’d have no objection to using such a product if it could be made.
Yes, please. Or at least for people who think that if a drop is good, immersing oneself in a 55 gallon drum of the stuff is better.
Just wondering-How effective are e-cigs when it comes to quitting smoking?
No, don’t. You - or anyone - don’t get to ban things just because you dislike them. Things should only ever be banned if they cause provable, measurable harm. Smelling something doesn’t do that.
Of course, smelling something means that there is something in the air, and it’s reasonable to test whether that’s harmful. So, anyone care to link to studies that show perfume or e-cigs are harmful?
I’m not typical of Vapers because I only vape when I drink. But still, drinking is a very strong trigger for smoking. I haven’t touched a cigarette for 1.5 years.
Anecdotal, of course: I know a lot of people who’ve quit using c-cigs as tobacco substitute. One or two of them have taken to e-cigs long term, though. It worked for me as well, though I started smoking again after six months while getting ready for the bar exam.
If a fellow hasn’t bathed in twelve days, or wears a whole pint of after-shave, or farts uncontrollably, most restaurants will politely ask them to leave.
In truly extreme cases, the offense could qualify as a disturbance of the peace.
I have freedom of speech, too…but I won’t get away with screaming at the top of my lungs.
I hate to stick up for smokers, but sneaking off to a bathroom stall to suck on a plastic pipe wouldn’t especially make me feel like a winner.
What a private business does is one thing, a government ban is something else entirely.
I’d like to see cites for either of them. Firstly, that someone could be criminalised for the way they smell, as that seems absurd. Secondly, plenty of protests involve people screaming at the top of their lungs, and it doesn’t seem to be illegal. It does depend how close to someone you are, extremely close could actually harm them. Unlike a smell.
From webmd:
I understand in this how the americans ended up with the prohibition.
Thank you. Facts am good.
Problem is, there just ain’t enough of 'em yet.
It’s a law, they don’t have a choice whether to enforce it or not. And if it’s illegal, I wouldn’t want to be seen using it inside anyway.
Because I can’t function without nicotine. A few years ago, I almost lost my job when I quit for ~6 months without nicotine replacement. I made a lot of “stoner mistakes” because I was so easily distracted and unable to focus.
Thanks, I didn’t know that! I thought he was a crazy drunk conservative. I guess he’s just a crazy conservative.
My coworker’s old-lady perfume isn’t illegal, and it’s far more offensive than any of those scents.
That’s the plan, although nobody will see me doing it in the stall.
They’re pretty fucking effective, but that’s anecdotal. I haven’t looked for any studies for a statistical conclusion yet, but it worked for several smokers I know. My mom (smoked for ~20 years), my aunt (lifelong smoker), some cousins, my coworker, and me.
I’m a heavy smoker, and I laughed out loud when I read this. Physiological nicotine withdrawal symptoms are gone in a matter of days no matter how much you smoke.
It was a ban on indoor use.
Normally I agree (cf., sex offender registries), but because this is similar to a product known to be harmful, and promoted as a harmless substitute for a harmful product, I think we are bumping up against “extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.”
However, if the research comes back that vaping is relatively safe for the vaper (particularly compared to smoking), and harmless to the person sitting next to him, then I am fully prepared to concede that you should be able to do it pretty much anywhere. I would hold out for exceptions like K-12 teachers not vaping in their classrooms, and perhaps allowing places that cater to children to ban it-- Toy R Us, for example. Also, if it proves a fire hazard around chemicals or oxygen, there may be some “no vaping” zones. I also think any indoor venue reserves the right to limit people to unscented or flavored types, since those can bother people with allergies.
Yup on the testing, although, I think that ecig companies are actually counting on people having the preconceived idea that smoking is so awful pretty much anything has to be less harmful, so who needs research?
If it has artificial flavors and scents, probably the same kind a lot of people have to perfumes.