Wow, the love got left behind. 
Uh. . . .
Don’t fight this point, it’s not worth it. You did make such an appeal, and it’s objectively wrong. You can still dislike the movie, you can still opine that it’s terrible, but what you can’t do is act like it failed as satire because no one bothered to identify with the good guys.
I don’t think we saw the same film.
He never even has any time to establish much of a place in the tribe. He’s rescued and then he leaves, remember?
Also…Michael Ironside and Clancy Brown in the same pic? How can you not love that?
And the characters are SUPPOSED to be cardboard. Denise Richards wasn’t cast because of her thespian skills, she was cast because she looks good in a 2 hour commercial.
Also…Doogie Howser: Nazi Space Scientist. Awesome.
I too really enjoyed Daredevil and never understood the animus against it. The nearest thing it had to a major flaw was that Jennifer Garner, while beautiful, was a little too northern European for Elektra.
I appreciated the casting choice for Wilson Fisk. It may have been vaguely risky changing the character’s race, but I had no problem with Duncan except possibly that he seemed to smile a lot more than his comic book counterpart.
Come to think of it, does comic book Kingpin ever smile? No instance comes to mind and I read a lot of Spider-Man in the 80s and 90s.
I’m one of the target audience for this movie & I had high hopes. They were not met.
I think some just hate Ben Affleck that much. Something else I don’t understand. Maybe because he used to be tabloid fodder. He’s not my favorite actor but he is decent at his job and is a good director too.
And you think Waterworld is a shitty movie? Ha. Thanks for the laugh.
Both have good moments, but get carried away with their pretentiousness.
The science behind Waterworld makes me sad. 
And the long drawn out depressing parts of What Dreams… are hard to take.
Well, there *was *that ludicrous playground fight.
Okay let me amend that to no one I KNOW bothered. No one who watched the movie who I spoke to, no one in my family, among my friends and acquaintances, people in the SF fan club to which I belonged at the time, etc…
I’m sure in the many years since that piece of shit was released, there’ve been people who think that liking the movie makes them part of the intellectual and political/philosophical illuminati. Their opinion doesn’t affect mine.
It is rather noteworthy that the “Starship Troopers” reviews get a lot more positive, and start singing the “but it’s a satire!” tune, only long after the movie’s release. Look at the review dates if you don’t believe me.
Even though it lost a historic amount of money, and all the people involved disown it, Town and Country (with Warren Beatty, Charlton Heston, etc.) is totally hilarious. It’s like an early Woody Allen comedy with all the annoying aspects removed. If it came out in 1978 it would have swept the Oscars.
How generous of you–you’ve gone from saying that nobody rooted for the main characters to saying that some folks claim to like it because they want to be popular. It’s very clear that you’ve got an objective, fairminded take on the movie.
The only Woody Allen movie that has ever made me laugh (or even chuckle!) is Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Sex But Were Afraid to Ask, but I never hear anybody talking about it.
The finest Kubrick movie is, in my opinion, Barry Lyndon - by no means “unjustly derided,” but compared to The Shining, 2001 or Clockwork Orange, it gets very little love.
The greatest comedy of all time is The Adventures Of Picasso. It is properly honoured in exactly two countries: Sweden and Hungary. Everywhere else, it is either criminally underrated, or else - you guessed it - simply unknown.
This one. Great movie, lot of fun.
My problem with the movie wasn’t Arnold, but the kid. He just irritated the fuck out of me.
Bwuh?
Contagion made $75 million in the US. It was the #1 movie the week it was released and #45 for the year (out of 602 movies).
I believe you (I noticed the same thing myself), but I just have to ask, “How?” The satire is so obvious that it practically jumped off the screen and slapped you in the face. How could so many critics miss it? I don’t think they have to like it (though they should), but how did they miss it?
Just watched Ishtar based upon the recommendations in this thread (and because it was available on Netflix streaming) and y’all are right - it’s nowhere near as bad as its reputation. If it is among the 5-worst films of 1987 (as evidenced by it’s Razzie nomination for ‘worst picture’), then '87 must have been the strongest year in the history of movies, quality-wise.