Napster Lock Down, What are you gonna do?

So, all you MP3 junkies…yeah I know you’re out there…what do you guys intend to do now that Napster has been scheduled to lock down at Midnight Friday?

http://cnews.tribune.com/news/tribune/story/0,1235,tribune-nation-65986,00.html

I know I intend to share everything I’ve got tonite and d/l like its going out of style, but what about after? I used to shop around the ftp sites before I discovered Napster, that was very tedious, and the sites were usually down or had too many users logged in. You also had no control over the quality of file. It basically was more trouble than its worth. Where does everyone intend to get their MP3 fix once Napster shuts down, and Scour already being gone?

I’ll toss out my take on Napster since I’m sure someone is going to beat the piracy drum before this gets underway. Is Napster stealing? Well in the narrow sense, yes it is. But I think the Industry is very short sighted. I personally, and many agree, think that Napster probably sold more records than anything. Napster is like quality control for the music indusrty. It allows users to sample the music and the non-singles tracks a artist produces on a CD. If the CD has more good tracks than the typical 2-3 that get any radio play the customer is 100x’s more likely to buy it. Most people with any sense don’t buy a CD after hearing one decent song on the radio. Basically it lets the artists who produce several good songs stand out over the one hit wonders, this is good for the record industry, musicians and customers. It simply rewards the better artists. I think less good bands are overlooked because of Napster too, some of us don’t get much radio time at home and Napster puts tunes into buyers heads where radio can’t reach. These factors are big pluses to any artist with a glimmer of foresight, and confidence in their ability. It hurts the big bands like Metallica becuase their records are going to sell before anyone hears the first single off the album. This isn’t a good thing, I don’t think musicians should ride on the success of a earlier album. If a big band puts out a shitty record, and people actually hear it before buying they’re less likely to buy on name recognition alone. Its the American Way to force these bands to stay sharp and good to compete with the up and comers. Napster levels the playing field. Now the industry probably sees this, but I think in the long run parity sells alot more records than a handful of superbands churning out a record every other year which is bought on name recognition alone. The record industry has basically chose to risk selling bad records to customers, and let some good unknown bands slip through the cracks, instead of giving the small bands a shot at winning fans, and risking the big names having a bad album not bought because the fans heard it first.

Of course people argue that Napster makes bootlegging easy and prevalent. I say this is bullshit. Any person looking to make a living bootlegging and the ones who really cut into profits don’t use MP3. They get a legit copy of the album, or at very least a .wav file of it and burn large quantities. Its very unlikely it’ll ever be cost effective for a typical person to d/l all their music, burn it onto disc, and create the liner notes. A a rock bottom CD-RW drive price of $100, and $1 per CD-R, usually and hour or more to completely d/l, convert, rip, burn and print labels for a CD, in addition the the degraded quality of even the best MP3 its not a smart investment to burn all of your CDs. If prices on CD-Rs and Burners get so low that it is a huge savings making the effort worth while to do in bulk, that tells us the Music industry is ripping us off.

Now that I’ve set myself up for a hijack, and rehashed alot of already beaten points, what does everyone plan to do for quick MP3s?

http://cnews.tribune.com/news/tribune/story/0,1235,tribune-nation-65986,00.html

Try that one, never trust the auto-hyperlinking software.

I will be the most file sharingest, downloadingest individual that I can possibly be. All I need is a link to a list of ALL band names, and I’ll download all the songs that I want.

Don’t forget about gnutella! It’s a great program, and is only a little more difficult to use than Napster. Plus, you can find more than just mp3 files on the servers. go to xxxxx to download the program. Not that I’m condoning piracy or anything…

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Moderator’s Notes:
I have removed the links to all of the sources for MP3 download software. It is the view of the SDMB administration, and apparently the federal authorities, that this software may possibly facilitate copyright infringements. As such, we will not allow what we consider to be illegal activities to be promoted on this message board. While we recognize the possibility of any legal action against the Chicago Reader and the Straight Dope arising out of this is remote, we must take actions to limit our exposure.

We do not, however, wish to stifle the discussion; we value the exchange of ideas and opinions.
[Edited by UncleBeer on 07-28-2000 at 07:42 AM]

What do you mean, Scour already being gone? I just d/l’d an MP3 from them about 15 minutes ago. That’s where I’ll be spending my time.

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Don’t forget them. if you’re running windows, it’ll find an OpenNap server and connect you to it. No worries. At least I hope :slight_smile:

Otherwise I’ll open up Gnutella again. :smiley:
Moderator’s Notes:
I have removed the links to all of the sources for MP3 download software. It is the view of the SDMB administration, and apparently the federal authorities, that this software may possibly facilitate copyright infringements. As such, we will not allow what we consider to be illegal activities to be promoted on this message board. While we recognize the possibility of any legal action against the Chicago Reader and the Straight Dope arising out of this is remote, we must take actions to limit our exposure.

We do not, however, wish to stifle the discussion; we value the exchange of ideas and opinions.
[Edited by UncleBeer on 07-28-2000 at 07:42 AM]

This is bad news for you, Omni. I may have to revert to begging you to send/find me the songs I want. Other than that, I’ve been downloading like mad.

From a recent Time Magazine article:

I stayed up all night last night downloading like mad. In the frenzy, I’ve forgotten the names of every song I’ve ever liked so I’ve been flipping through radio stations, in a desperate attempt to find songs. I’ve been channel surfing hoping to hear a good song at the end of a movie or whatever. I’m just so pissed about this.

(copy of text from another post)

Lets keep this in perspective here guys. The article, while interesting, happens to be published by Time-Warner, owner of Warner Records, one of the original primary plantiffs in the trial.

No wonder the stats and quotes are so varied…

Omnniscient, we should probably start repeating our same arguments in two threads. But to condense what I said in the other thread: Time magazine had a disclaimer in the article stating their affiliation with Warner Records. If you want to cite other studies showing that Napster has increased record sales, please do so. If you have any information showing that the methodology used for the RIAA study was faulty, please share that information with us.

As a Napster user, I have d/led about as many songs as I’ve contributed (if you want to call it that ;)). Prior to Napster I almost NEVER bought CDs. One a year was about my fix, aside from that it was radio stations and TV (BET, VH1, MTV). Since then, I’ve bought three CDs in three months. Of the CDs I bought, I had listened to about 4 songs off each CD, then decided it was a worthy purchase. Suddenly the music industry is making a lot more money off of me (one of the CDs I bought went platinum). So, gigantic and evil music industry, why shouldn’t I see what I’m getting before I buy it? That’s how it is with many products, why not CDs?

Now for the stats (I hope I remember them correctly, or you will all fry my butt). Results to a published, oft-quoted study stated that 54% of Napster users were more likely to buy music after sampling it on Napster. That’s a pretty sweet deal.

BTW, I am gonna D/L till midnight Friday… it’s free and I’m getting my money’s worth. :wink:

Bah. I quit Napster yonks ago. And it had nothing to do with it getting blocked at work. Nothing at all. Gnutella kicks ass! Can’t be blocked or shut down!

Bah. Gnutella is buggy. Every time I get past a couple hundred thousand files or so, the stupid thing resets itself. It’s very frustrating. If they fixed that problem it would be great, but for now it sucks.

Where will I go for my MPEG Layer 3 fix now that Napster is going bye-bye? I suppose I’ll head over to IRC. Usenet is a decent choice too, provided you have a newsreader that handles binaries in a user-friendly fashion.

My cable modem installation is scheduled for tomorrow at 5pm. As soon as it is up and running I am gonna download as many songs as possible until the servers go down. After that I will try Gnutell, CuteMX, Napigator, iMesh, and any other program I can find. http://www.oth.net is great for finding FTP sites. When I have cable modem speed I might actually be able to use those ratio sites.

before i found the greatness that is napster, i bit the bullet and used mirc.

OK, bastard child of the computer world here.
I got a Mac. I use Macster to tap into the Napster files. Anybody got a hot tip for a Mac-friendly download site?

Gotta go… time’s wasting…

Whereas Napster and Macster users couldn’t trade songs with each other (correct me if I’m wrong on that one), virtually all other common file transmission methods (thought I’m not sure about all the Napster and Gnutella clones) are platform independent. An FTP site, an IRC channel, and Usenet are no friendlier to PC users than to Mac users.

I’ll miss Napster for a variety of reasons. Probably the most obvious is the ability to find old, half-forgotten and often obscure songs.

Geez what am I going to do now? Post an appeal on the Straight Dope?