Instead of insinuating something, how about you stand right up and declare exactly what you mean.
Badnarik or Nader. Or Bush.
Or a minor Dem candidate who doesn’t lie like a fucking Rove-wannabe.
Blow it out your ass. A lie is a lie, regardless of who says it. NARAL and SBVFT are the same here–unsubstantiated bullshit, provably bullshit bullshit, and half-truths and innuendo.
And I’m not listening to either of them.
Honestly, if you’re offended by the fact I’m calling bullshit on propoganda instead of supporting it just because it’s supposedly ‘liberal’, get the FUCK out of my side of the political spectrum.
I’d like to remind everyone else that “we liberals” don’t accept a word of NARAL’s bullshit, although I won’t speak for individual fascists who are pretending to be liberal.
Absoultely. There’s no point in trying to get any advocacy group to admit to “lying”. Ain’t gonna happen. The system, such as it is, seems to have worked well this time.
Maybe, except for this little ditty from your cite:
By most measures I am a liberal, and certainly pro-choice, yet I have sent NARAL two scathing emails, one criticizing for the ad to begin with and another criticizing their disingenuous reason for pulling it. It’s not just conservatives who are pissed and have demanded that the ad be pulled. I just wish the media would give us liberals credit for showing some principle.
How is that disagreeing with what Moto said? You’ve shown that folks on the right (Roberts supporters) and folks on the left (yourself) exerted pressure; doesn’t that constitute, more or less, all sides of the debate?
Daniel
What Mr. Moto said was correct. The line from the cite only mentioned the right.
I imagine that it was the left’s reaction that caused the ad to be pulled.
Yes, I wasn’t disagreeing with Moto but rather with the article’s implication that only the right protested. I wasn’t very clear. Sorry.
No problem–I hadn’t read the article, and was being both clueless and lazy. Thanks for the clarification!
Daniel
They’ll think about that when they get to the polls.
If the line isn’t too long.
And if it’s not raining.
And if there’s nothing good on TV that day.
And if they don’t remember some errand.
And if…
Next step? Election rigging is as American as apple pie, and it’s a bipartisan pastime.
Did you think they would? Doing so might have left them vulnerable to legal action.
That’s somewhat incriminating, Squink, but it’s also a case of guilt-by-association, and even your quote note that it’s someone accused of a crime.
Nope…I was just putting their “ad pulling” in perspective.
They get more credit from me than the Swifties, but it’s not like NARAL did anything honorable, either. They were becoming a liability to their cause and didn’t have much choice at that point but to yank it.
They could have said that the debate over their ad was becoming a distraction and left it at that. To say “We regret that many people have misconstrued our recent advertisement about Mr. Roberts’ record” makes it sound like it’s the fault of the viewers. Not exactly honest, either IMHO.
Hey Squink, do you have any intention of answering the question that I’ve asked of you…TWICE?
I’ll refresh again from my earlier post…
Yes or no, will you apply the same standard of “we don’t really know if they lied, cuz there ain’t been a libel suit” to the Swifities?
Why would I? You just want to beat me with whatever answer I give. If you’re going to play the avenging moralist, you’ll have to work out the right answer on your own.
Wow…what a fucking coward you are.
You make the statement (unprovoked) …
It’s obvious that your standard for judging these folks to be LYING depends on the outcome of a slander suit. Yet you won’t use the same standard on a group that produced…errrr what was that phrase you used…Oh yes “vile accusations”, because you’re afraid that I’ll “beat you with whatever answer you give”?
Lets see…so far in this one thread alone…You have
- defended liars
- deliberately distorted a cite that I used ( a form of lying, of course )
- Used a ridiculous standard to measure whether NARAL was lying (they’re only LYING if they lose a slander suit) …even though you won’t use that SAME standard against people that spread “vile accusations”…ummm which are lies, right?
- Pussied out (twice) of answering a question about the above because your widdle feelings might get hurt.
What a lying coward you are.
:wally
Actually I think I’ll save that response…it makes a fantastic signature.
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Pretty much sums it all up nicely…doncha think?
beagledave:Hey Squink, do you have any intention of answering the question that I’ve asked of you?
Squink:Why would I? You just want to beat me with whatever answer I give.
Yeah beagledave, Now you are masturbating like a motherFuck!
Enjoy yourself.