Natalie Portman is the new Thor

Thor-Loser.

Ouch.

I’m still trying to figure out how Thor himself is still Thor, since his “power comes from Asgard” (like Hela) as stated in Ragnarok, and Asgard was destroyed not long after.

ETA: Not to mention how Thanos “slaughtered half my crew” in Infinity War, when clearly he killed everyone on the refugee ship (save Thor) by blowing it up.

Did they ever say that about Thor? I thought they only said that about Hela.

You can see another ship leaving right at the start. That’s how Valkyrie, Korg, etc. survived.

Valkyrie says it: “she [Hela] draws her power from Asgard, same as you” to Thor.

I just rewatched the start of Infinity War. I saw no other ship. We see a fade from the Marvel splash to the refugee ship calling for help and getting missiled by Thanos’ ship. Cut to onboard the refugee ship which is a burning wreck, where we get a long scene in which Hulk gets stomped, Thanos gets the space stone, kills Loki and Heimdall, Hulk gets teleported, then Thanos and company teleport out as the ship is engulfed in purple fire and explodes. Cut to Hulk hurtling toward Earth.

Edit: at the end of Ragnarok, we do see the Commodore (which could transport maybe 15 people uncomfortably) parked on top of the refugee ship. Is there some sort of extended cut where that ship gets away?

But Thor also learned that “Asgard” isn’t a specific geographic location. Presumably the faith and respect of his remaining people kept him juiced up whereas Hela lacked the introspection to draw from the same well once Asgard-the-Mythical-Place was destroyed.

Thanos’s entire schtick was the 50% nonsense so I can just accept that he allowed half the folks to depart via emergency shuttle or whatever, whether I saw it or not. Thinking that Thanos blew up all the remaining Asgardians goes against the entire premise of the movie.

Jane Foster has a PhD. As such she is properly addressed as Dr. Thor.

:wink:

So does Man Thor still have sparkle fingers or did that go away when Jane took up the hammer?

Can Dr. Thor (<–I like this) develop her abilities so that she can get sparkle fingers without the hammer or is she totally dependent on it?

You mean like killing all the dwarves on Nidavellir save one?

Random question for someone who didn’t read the comics, is Odin supposed to be more powerful than Thor, or do they both go through different iterations who is the ultimate most powerful Asgardian?

Comic book power-levels are inherently untrustworthy, but classically yes. He supposedly had the fused powers of three gods( himself and his two dead brothers Vili and Ve who passed on their power to him before dying, ), collectively called the Odinforce. This put him in a different class than any of the other gods. However I understand at least one point he died and passed on all that power to Thor.

But I think he has come back and died multiple times, just like virtually every other comic book character.

There was a specific reason for that: he knew the dwarves could forge something to stop the Gauntlet, which he needed for the whole 50% plan. It’s explicitly stated in the movie. At no point is anything similar said about the rank and file Asgardians (who are mainly just regular dudes).

You’re mistaken. Eitri tells us he made the gauntlet, hoping his folk would be spared. Thanos killed them anyway, and maimed Eitri. We’re left to assume why.

Yeah, that was the point. He killed the dwarven craftsman and left the one survivor unable to forge. Then Thor tells Eitri that the weapons came from his mind, not his hands. I mean, it wasn’t exactly subtle or anything.

Though, that said, if we’re being literal and only accepting things clearly stated then Eitri also never says that the three hundred dwarves on the ring represented the totality of the dwarf species. Just that there were three hundred dwarves “on this ring”. But we do know that the Asgardians on the ship were the last of their kind.

In the comics, Unworthy Thor/Odinson gets his arm cut off while Jane is being Thor Goddess of Thunder. So, yes, his fingers went away.

Also I can’t believe people having a problem with Jane being called Thor when she’s being Thor, when Frog Thor has been around as a precedent since forever while Thor was around, and they’re both Thors.

DocThor is my new favourite Name for Jane with the Hammer :slight_smile: As to powered by Asgard, we specifically have a new Asgard on Earth now, wherever the inhabitants came from. So that would still work out (even though I don’t think the movies care too much).

My 2 Cents are still on AltUniverse Jane as DocThor, which may make the role interesting enough for Natalie. What with having interactions between DocThor and JanePrime, stuff like that.

Damn, lost his hammer, lost his arm, no more sparkle fingers…sounds like dude had a really really bad year. I’m starting to think they should have just killed him off so Jane can operate with less baggage.

Thanks everyone for helping us non-comic book readers to better understand the story.

It’s comic books. “Killing him off” is functionally equivalent to “putting him on hiatus for a couple of months.”

The frog’s name is Thor. The Asgardian’s name is Thor. The human’s name is Jane.

“Jane becomes Thor” makes sense in a context where you already have “Donald becomes Thor”. But that’s been out of the comics backstory for a long time, and was explicitly joked at in the movie.

Jane!
The Thor they call Jane!
She took the hammer from fat Thor.
Stood up to the man and she gave him what for.
Our love for her now, ain’t hard to explain,
The hero of Asgard, the Thor they call Jane!

This is what going mad feels like.