Let’s see…dozens of Trayvon Martin threads with thousands of posts. Did I miss the thread devoted to NBC’s “mistake”.
They did fire the guy (apparently) but I haven’t found any more info in the last ten days. Won’t release his name.
If Fox News had done anything like this…
What’s the debate? How about, did the scandal get the play it deserved here or elsewhere?
Don’t leave us hangin!
Let me try:
Run an internal investigation, find something wrong, fire the person responsible, make the results public, and apologize?
Well - speaking just for me, if Fox News did all that, I’d be very impressed.
I have actually wondered how much of the initial outrage and initial framing of the issue came from this edit. Don’t get me wrong – there’s enough wonky stuff here for real. But this tape edit made Zimmerman sound solidly racist, instead of just answering a question. Did this broadcast contribute to the outrage in any way?
I have no way of knowing.
I don’t think NBC has done that.
For example, since the results are public… who did they fire?
The edit was discussed in some of the many threads about the shooting. It was discussed at some length here and at least briefly here. If you want a debate, please take a position and debate it.
If we’re going to argue equivocation, then we’d best discover the internal memo from NBC that directs them to slant news in order to make certain individuals seem racist, as part of an overall trend designed to frame issues to influence the way the public votes. Which would also have to be consistent with editorial oversight throughout the several different media outlets headed by the owner of MSNBC.
Are you just asking questions?
There’s currently two narratives out there. One is that Florida passed a shitty law that may or may not be responsible for allowing an armed vigilante to shoot an unarmed teenager and walk away without any charges for what seemed like a really long time. If you go read monstro’s OP in the 85 page clusterfuck of a thread that got locked, the basic elements of outrage didn’t change until Zimmerman was finally arrested.
We’ll call that the “Liberal Narrative.” Then there’s:
The liberal media saw a run-of-the-mill boring-ass story about a self defense case in Florida. They wanted to spice it up by making it all about race, so they found the sweetest, cutest picture of the victim they could find, the scariest and most thuggish picture of the shooter, and they crafted a story that was sure to sell some copy. They edited tapes, left out salient details, and declared Zimmerman guilty, all in the name of the almighty dollar. And the sheep are too dumb to realize that they’re being played!
That’s the “Conservative Narrative.” I’ve been hearing that a lot on other message boards.
Well, obviously you know about it, so the degree of ‘play’ must have been at least minimally adequate.
OK - not sure what you’re getting at here. Certainly NBC made it public - here’s a link from their own website. I guess it’s true they didn’t release the producers name. Is there a gotcha I’m missing?
I think NBC aired that shitty edit on March 27, which is about two weeks after the protests went national and a week after the Justice Department opened its investigation into the shooting. So even though NBC screwed up royally, the answer would appear to be “almost none.”
Fox News is directly vilified on political levels all the way up to the President of the United States. Considering that the President adopted Martin as his virtual reality son I think it would have been more of a news story if someone from Fox did this. His name would be made public.
But since the President can’t be bothered with a hate group offering reward money for the capture of Zimmerman then the politics of this event are ignored on the news level.
How do you mentally square a racist rewrite of the news to an even that’s gone viral and then declare it would have almost no affect. Logic would dictate that a national event that is fed raw gasoline in the form of “legitimate news” would have a great effect. this was presented as a direct quote, from the mouth of Zimmerman, that he was a racist. As a moderator, you’ve read the responses from people declaring Zimmerman a racist based on nothing. There is no indication he’s a racist. Other than this news story of course.
Please don’t make me laugh.
Because the shooting was national news before NBC aired the tape. Bricker said he wondered “how much of the initial outrage and initial framing of the issue came from this edit,” and since the edit was made and broadcast about a week after the shooting became big news, it stands to reason that it did not have much to do with the initial outrage or initial framing because it happened afterward. There were pro-Martin marches on March 21 and 22, and I think that’s a day or two after the shooting started getting national news coverage. The edit was terrible and it may have affected a lot of people’s perceptions, but it didn’t make this a national news story or spark the outrage.
People were already outraged by the case when the tape came out, and I don’t think the tape added much, if anything, to it. I, for one, didn’t even hear the tape until it became public that it was doctored.
Its Rathergate all over again! Connect the dot, people! Connect the dot!
This guy was fired? Oh, really? Who’s to say he didn’t get a cushy new job working for The Big O? What, the fact that the liberal media didn’t report it? Well, they wouldn’t, now would they? So that’s evidence right there!
WHAT? you don’t think this was racist rewrite?
That’s ridiculous. Public outrage is not an on/off switch nor is 2 weeks a lot of time for a news event to grow. It builds with each bit of information or in this case misinformation. And it was a whopper of misinformation. To suggest this didn’t add to public outrage early on when it’s the ONLY piece of information pointing to racism is a complete abandonment of logic. It was gasoline to the unqualified suggestion from race-agitators that it was a racist event in the first place.
If the March 27th date is correct, then I agree. Is it?
NBC, itself, said: “No comment.”
Good point. I didn’t recall the time frame as well as I thought. That answers my question, and the answer is: “Very little.”