Need help diagnosing plasma tv issues

I’m going to school for electrical engineering (haven’t had many engineering classes yet but I know the basics) and have been buying tools at home to tinker with. I got the idea that a broken television might be a great project to work on so I bought a 50" HP PL5060N plasma television that showed gibberish on the screen if anything at all. I had been using a 27" CRT I bought 10 years ago so it’d be a hell of a replacement. I fixed the original problem by replacing the y-sustain, y-drivers, and z-sustain boards but since, some other problems have revealed themselves.

The first problem showed up about an hour into using the television. There are two magenta vertical lines on the left side of the screen that show up best on blue or white backgrounds. It appears that the blue isn’t showing up on two columns of pixels. The repair manual suggests that it’s either the x-driver, control board, or tcp, the last of which isn’t replaceable at home. From the looks of it, if it was the control board, there would be regular lines across the screen so I’m leaning away from that for this issue. I fiddled with the ribbon cables going from the drivers to the panel while the tv was on to see if maybe it was a loose connection and moving it would affect the lines, but it didn’t affect them at all.

The other issues showed up after several hours of use. The second issue is that the screen occasionally dims. It’ll either flicker or stay dim, and goes back to bright immediately once what’s on the screen suddenly changes such as a scene cut. On this one, the manual says a dark display is an IPM fail on the z-sustain board but I doubt that since it’s intermittent. Maybe a loose connection or bad solder joint?

Thirdly, the tv occasionally makes a chirping sound like a cricket. I may try putting it on the stand with the cover off for a while to try to pinpoint it better, but with the cover on it sounds like it’s coming from near the center of the tv, about where the control board is. It doesn’t seem to happen at the same time as the dimming.

The last one I’m not sure if it’s a problem or not. Whenever whatever I’m watching goes black, it has a dim afterimage of whatever was on it before. It’ll stay on the screen for as long as the scene is black, but once something else appears on the screen, even just subtitles at the bottom of the screen, it all goes away. I watched a movie last night with a few parts where it’s black for a few seconds and it never went black. I’ve only noticed it on composite input (maybe simply because broadcast television rarely has moments when it’s completely black) and there’s no afterimage if I switch to an input with no signal. Also, the afterimage remains even when I bring up the menu, suggesting to me it’s some early stage of the signal processing. I’ve read that plasma televisions do have a bit of an afterimage at times, but it sounds a bit different than what I’ve got going on here. It also sometimes has red static on black parts of the screen.

So I was hoping there are some electrical engineers or tv repairmen who can help me out here. It seems likely that not all these problems are interrelated, but it seems unlikely that none of them are. I can get the x-driver board for about $20 so it’s probably worth a try for the two lines. The control board is about $40 so it’s not going to break the bank either, but I’d at least like to know there’s a significant chance that’s what’s causing the issue before getting it. Other than that, I’m out of ideas.

On all monitors, CRT or flatscreen, it is a good idea to start with cap kits. Dimming can be a symptom of cap kits, so can lines. There was a slew of bad caps in flatscreens in the last few years from China.

edit: The after image, try turning the monitor onto game mode, or use a VGA input (both have no post processing of the image) and see if you still have the ghosting effects, if you don’t it means that the monitor’s post processing algorhythm is just janky and introducing artifacts, especially from a composited image I would think since it’s going to try to clean up a fuzzy composited image.

I just found several references that say that the red static is a sign of wrong or unstable voltage from the power supply. The first thing I did when I got the tv was check the voltages but I didn’t have the repair manual at that time so I was mainly checking for no voltage or unstable voltage. If I recall correctly, Vs was between 190 and 195 and the manual says 175 to 190, so it might be slightly off. I think Va was within range but I’m going to put the multimeter and oscilloscope on it to make sure. As you say, it may need a new electrolytic cap or two or simply adjustment of the voltage. Maybe that’ll fix some of the issues. (By the way, the first references I found to this tv are from 2006, so I don’t know if you would call that the last few years. Of course that doesn’t mean it’s not a cap though.)

I don’t see any game mode in the setup menu. I’ll try hooking my computer to it if I can find a VGA cable, but that’s a big if. I’ve been using DVI for years now.

Edit: Also, I’ll note that I immediately checked all the capacitors for bulging after opening the case. I know they don’t always bulge when they go bad though. I ordered a capacitance/ESR tester from China that’ll arrive at some point in the future. I’ll see how much variance there is on the voltage before I worry about that.

I have measured the power supply voltage. Vs was 197. I turned it down to 180. Va was about 61.5 and it’s supposed to be between 59 and 61, so I turned it down to 60.0. I’m a little concerned about the noise I’m seeing on Vs though. It’s almost a volt in amplitude. The main frequency is about 60 Hz but there’s also a signal on it about 750 Hz. I’m guessing this is more than there should be. Unfortunately the manual doesn’t say.

I’ve been running the tv for a while after setting the voltages. The static is gone and I haven’t heard any buzzing. The two lines are still there but now they have a lack of red instead of blue and don’t really show up on white backgrounds, just reddish ones. At the least, there are fewer problems now.

How is the ghosting now? I just fixed a grounding issue in an arcade monitor today, so I’m in a monitor mood. :slight_smile:

Try googling your tv+game mode or post processing. Hopefully you got a decent ESR because my cheapie imported from China is pretty useless since it doesn’t measure higher than, if I remember correctly, 1000uF.

Most likely, Vs and Va will be printed on a label stuck to the panel.

It’s still there. I made a video of it happening during the PS2 startup screen. The video isn’t that great but you can kind of see that towards the end as the “balls” move around in a circle, they leave what looks like a smudge on the screen. I stopped the video just before the parental advisory screen comes up but when it does, all “smudges” go away, even on the parts of the screen that are still black. Also, if I switch to video 2 (which has nothing connected to it), they go away and even stay away if I switch back to video 1.

I’m not finding anything useful. I may look around in the service menu and see if there’s anything in there.

It says it measures up to 100 mF. They better actually mean millifarads and not microfarads or I’m going to be irritated.

I found them in the repair manual.