Yes even though that particular article didn’t say it there is ample evidence that he was politically motivated to specifically target police officers. I never once mentioned Antifa. Why would that matter? There are reports of officers being followed home and incidents occurring in various parts of the country. I received a FBI alert to the fact. The airman in California killed two police officers in targeted attacks in sympathy to the current unrest. He doesn’t need to proclaim allegiance to some nebulous group for my points to stand.
On the 538 graph, the lowest point is just under 37%, which projects to around 120M people. The poster’s assumption seems to be that respondents who choose “approve” must largely be supporters, so there must be at least a hundred million of them. The definition of “supporter” is used broadly here, obviously, since at least 38M of those “supporters” did not even bother to vote for him in '16.
They’ll do anything to avoid acknowledging that they’ve been conned by an emperor wearing no clothes, like making up a mental disorder to malign libruls.
It looks as though you’re using a “US population” figure to get this–which would include minors. If so, that wouldn’t make sense, unless the poll included minors.
I’m seeing statistics like:
and
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045219
So this would be roughly 256,856,000 over 18; 37% of that would be 95,036,720. Which, okay, isn’t an order of magnitude smaller than 120 million. But, still.
I agree with this. The ‘didn’t bother to vote for him’ figure would thus be a bit more than a third of the ‘approve’ respondents.
FWIW, I draw a distinction between Trump voters and Trump supporters. There might be plenty of people who voted for him (and will again) even though they know what a sleazy idiot he is, because they support some things he claims to support or simply because they’re Republicans. We have a few on this board and while I disagree with them on almost everything I can at least read their posts with some respect.
But someone who flies a 6x4 flag in front of their house isn’t just voting for Trump – he or she wants the world to know that they love the guy. I don’t care how many millions of those folk there may be, but they have branded themselves in my eyes as disgraceful, loathsome and unworthy of any form of engagement.
Last week social media was buzzing with this one isolated report of some extremist rhetoric suggesting that activists would take protests to the suburb. This prompted an immense outpouring of defiant suburbanites fantasizing about how they’d finally get to unbox the AR-15 they got last Christmas to rain down fire and fury onto any hapless looters stupid enough to set foot on 123 Elm Street, a hundred miles from any population center.
I suspect that many of these people instead just quietly took down some of their MAGA regalia. Not out of fear! Oh no! They’re just going stealthy so they can spot the enemy first.
I agree with this sentiment. I’ve cut many (though not all) Trump voters out of my life, but I had to ditch every single Trump supporter. There’s nothing redeemable about anyone who actually likes the man, even if they only like him because lib’rul tears.
Agreed.
As has been noted (if not in this thread than in others on the site), there are several distinct groups who might answer ‘yes, support Trump’ to a pollster. There are the ‘vote Republican always’ people, the ‘adore Trump people,’ and the ‘pay virtually no attention to the news but have a lifelong habit of saying “yes, I support the President” (no matter who the President is)’ people.
So far I haven’t seen a poll that teases out these distinctions. That would be interesting, if someone found a way to do it.
But the bottom line, of course, is the November election. If large numbers of the ‘support the Republican no matter what, and also vote’ people become aware of the actual effects Trump is having on their daily lives, then they might break their lifelong habits of voting GOP regardless of the results of those votes.
My hope is that many of these people will not only break that habit this November, but will also take a step back and question their overall allegiance. If everything I’ve believed in all along has led to my party enabling this abomination, maybe those beliefs were also wrong.
If you really want to know the “implication,” just ask the guy.
I think the fact he’s taken his Trump flag down can be attributed to the fact that he’s taken the flag down.
Whoa, guys, slow down … a guy can only handle so much penetrating insight in one day.
You are being subjected to incitement to insightfulness.
Can’t be. I’m inside working offsite. Exciting!