New and Improved ChiDope Thread! Now with 33% More DETAILS!

This replaces the previous ChiDope thread closed by UncleBeer on request a few hours ago. As Gundy’s anticipated replacement thread seems to have gone astray, here are the details:

The Grafton is indeed a go.

We have the back room from 8-11. After that, it will be open to the public but (of course) we’re included in that term. We’re not doing a package, so we’ll be running a tab or tabs. A full menu of food is available.

This is a recently renovated bar with owners who have been very accomodating to us. (Both of them are fairly recent arrivals from Ireland.) We’ve assured them that we intend to tip well in appreciation, so please budget accordingly. There’s a decent selection of beers on tap, a full bar, and Irish-influenced food that actually looks good. (Sorry, Mom.) Gundy and I are very happy that we’ll be able to have this at a place that, while renovated and (authentically) Irish in theme, does kind of have a traditional Chicago bar vibe.

For our out-of-towners, the bar is in a safe, gentrifying area of the city. Parking is not a major issue, unless you’re one of those suburbanites who freak if it takes more than 90 seconds to find a spot. On-street may take some looking (5 minutes and 3 blocks, tops), but there is a medium-sized city lot right across the street. In my experience, the lot can fill up on Saturday nights, but the fact that a fairly large restaurant next door recently closed should ease the demand. (If not, you can park in my driveway for a nominal fee. It’s half a mile away, but I’ll have your car guarded by the world’s only attack-Lab.)

For those who are interested in eating dinner at a nearby (walking distance) restaurant, I can recommend two. La Boca della Verite is two blocks north, and is a good traditional casual Italian place. Groups are accomodated, although reservations are a good idea (not essential). Fans of Roman Holiday will especially enjoy this place. She She is a trendier, more upscale place across the street. (You might want to wear black.) It’s more of a date place. Food is good, but reservations here are absolutely essential on Saturday. Even then, you might have to wait. (In light of some of her recent posts in this thread, I’ll let Gundy explain the reason for the name of this restaurant.)

There are also numerous quick and inexpensive storefront-type restaurants in the area. I’ll let Eva talk about the nearby Old Town School of Folk Music and Jar talk about German attractions in Lincoln Square. (Yes, I know that Old Town is not nearby. It’s confusing. The school moved.)

After discussing the transportation issue with Gundy, we’ve concluded that it really shouldn’t be a problem, even for the O’Hare people. I would expect that most people based at the hotel will already be in Chicago Saturday afternoon and evening before 8. (And if not, what are you thinking?). Virtually every Chicago attraction is (at least fairly) close to the Red or Brown lines. The Grafton is near Brown Line stops, and Red Line travelers can readily switch to the Brown Line at Belmont. To get back the hotel, grab a cab and pick up the Blue Line at Montrose or Irving. It’ll be about $10, which can be shared. If you’re driving, I’ve already addressed parking. People coming in from the suburbs on the Kennedy should get off at Irving/Keeler. Irving will take you to within 5 blocks of the bar. Advanced users of this exit will immediately turn left (north) on Keeler and travel 3 blocks to Montrose, which will take you to within a block of the bar.

On a slightly different, yet related topic, does anybody have a suggestion for babysitting services for out of town folks? I expect to come up with the full family in force, but would love to bring Mrs. ShibbOleth up to at least the Saturday and hopefully Friday night events rather than stick her at the hotel with the kids. Maybe if she can meet Gundy and Tiburon she can overcome her fear of Doper menfolk
and replace it with a well founded fear of Doper wimmins.

So any recommended childcare solutions. We’ll be staying at Jane D’Oh’s palace. TIA.

Thanks to the local doper contingent for all their hard work and drinking in finding a place for the festivities. I’m really sorry I wasn’t able to join you.

For Saturday during-the-day activities, is anyone interested in any of the following (I’m interested in all of them and I’m not quite sure exactly which one I want to do yet):[ul]Lincoln Park Zoo (if the weather cooperates)
The Field Museum to see Sue and go in the coal mine
The Art Institute (with an eye towared the world-class French Impressionism collection)[/ul]
The Shedd Aquarium is also a lot of fun, but I joined the group there at the last ChiDope and am not ready to go again quite yet.

Okay, kids, thanks for being patient. Details for Saturday evening have been settled, so here goes:

**Saturday Night, May 10 **

We have the back room at The Grafton from 8 – 11 p.m. The Grafton is at 4530 N. Lincoln. Explicit directions follow for dorks like me who navigate by landmark.

Directions from the O’Hare Blue Line:

Board the Blue Line heading south (towards the Loop). Exit at Montrose. Catch the # Montrose bus heading east (if you’re standing on the overpass, look for the downtown skyline – from that viewpoint, east is left). Exit at the Lincoln stop (ask the bus driver, they’ll usually let you know where to exit). Turn left onto Lincoln and walk 1 ½ blocks to the Grafton.

Directions from downtown on the Brown Line:

Board the Brown Line heading north (to Kimball). Exit at Western. After you come down the escalator and go through the turnstiles, exit the station to the left and walk to Eastwood Ave (there’s a 7-Eleven on the corner). Turn left onto Eastwood and walk two blocks to Lincoln Avenue. Turn right onto Lincoln Avenue and walk half a block to The Grafton.

Directions from downtown on the Red Line:

Board the Red Line heading north (to Howard). Transfer to the Brown Line heading north (to Kimball) at Fullerton or at Belmont, and follow directions from Brown Line above.

Directions from Lake Shore Drive:

Exit LSD at Montrose Avenue and drive two miles west to Lincoln. Turn right onto Lincoln – The Grafton is 1 ½ blocks north.

Directions from 90/94:

Exit at Keeler Avenue and proceed 3 blocks north to Montrose. Turn right on Montrose and drive about two miles east to Lincoln. Turn left on Lincoln – The Grafton is 1 ½ blocks north.

The neighborhood surrounding The Grafton, Lincoln Square, is worth a few hours in and of itself. My recommendations are the Merz Apothecary (a fantastic fancy-toiletries and homeopathic medicine shop – they run www.smallflower.com, to give you an idea of what they carry) and Quake Collectibles (Want a Tick action figure? Chairy from Pee Wee’s Playhouse? A-Team lunchbox? Go here!). There’s also the Old Town School of Folk Music. Check out the Lincoln Square Chamber of Commerce’s website for more nifty stuff.

Those who are under 21 and will be attending, please contact Random or me for information.

More to follow…
fixed smallflower.com link - ub

I’m posting this on Random’s behalf – nice details here about the bar itself and some restaurant recommendations.


The Grafton is indeed a go.

We have the back room from 8-11. After that, it will be open to the public but (of course) we’re included in that term. We’re not doing a package, so we’ll be running a tab or tabs. A full menu of food is available.

This is a recently renovated bar with owners who have been very accomodating to us. (Both of them are fairly recent arrivals from Ireland.) We’ve assured them that we intend to tip well in appreciation, so please budget accordingly. There’s a decent selection of beers on tap, a full bar, and Irish-influenced food that actually looks good. (Sorry, Mom.) Gundy and I are very happy that we’ll be able to have this at a place that, while renovated and (authentically) Irish in theme, does kind of have a traditional Chicago bar vibe.

For our out-of-towners, the bar is in a safe, gentrifying area of the city. Parking is not a major issue, unless you’re one of those suburbanites who freak if it takes more than 90 seconds to find a spot. On-street may take some looking (5 minutes and 3 blocks, tops), but there is a medium-sized city lot right across the street. In my experience, the lot can fill up on Saturday nights, but the fact that a fairly large restaurant next door recently closed should ease the demand. (If not, you can park in my driveway for a nominal fee. It’s half a mile away, but I’ll have your car guarded by the world’s only attack-Lab.)

For those who are interested in eating dinner at a nearby (walking distance) restaurant, I can recommend two. La Boca della Verite is two blocks north, and is a good traditional casual Italian place. Groups are accomodated, although reservations are a good idea (not essential). Fans of Roman Holiday will especially enjoy this place. She She is a trendier, more upscale place across the street. (You might want to wear black.) It’s more of a date place. Food is good, but reservations here are absolutely essential on Saturday. Even then, you might have to wait. (In light of some of her recent posts in this thread, I’ll let Gundy explain the reason for the name of this restaurant.)

There are also numerous quick and inexpensive storefront-type restaurants in the area. I’ll let Eva talk about the nearby Old Town School of Folk Music and Jar talk about German attractions in Lincoln Square. (Yes, I know that Old Town is not nearby. It’s confusing. The school moved.)

After discussing the transportation issue with Gundy, we’ve concluded that it really shouldn’t be a problem, even for the O’Hare people. I would expect that most people based at the hotel will already be in Chicago Saturday afternoon and evening before 8. (And if not, what are you thinking?). Virtually every Chicago attraction is (at least fairly) close to the Red or Brown lines. The Grafton is near Brown Line stops, and Red Line travelers can readily switch to the Brown Line at Belmont. To get back the hotel, grab a cab and pick up the Blue Line at Montrose or Irving. It’ll be about $10, which can be shared. If you’re driving, I’ve already addressed parking. People coming in from the suburbs on the Kennedy should get off at Irving/Keeler. Irving will take you to within 5 blocks of the bar. Advanced users of this exit will immediately turn left (north) on Keeler and travel 3 blocks to Montrose, which will take you to within a block of the bar.

We have a confirmed attendance as of the last thread of 53. They are:

2nd Law
Angel of the Lord
anya marie
ArrMatey
Avarie537
biggirl
bristlesage
chique
Czarcasm
Daowajan
Demo
Eonwe
Eutychus
Eva Luna
Ferret Herder
fizzestothetop
Garfield226
Gundy
Hamlet
iampunha
Jane D’Oh
jarbabyj
Jessica2
JoeyHemlock
Judith Prietht
Kat
Kyla
lno
LurkMeister (& Mrs.)
Maeglin
MEBuckner
MikeG
monster
Niblet_head
Persephone
Porcupine
pricciar
Random
rubes
Ruby
sheepi83
ShibbOleth
SuaSponte
Tiburon
tiggeril
tygre
typo mna
Uncle Beer
vix
Wikkit
Wolf189
Zanshin
Zoltarb

The following folks expressed interest but have not confirmed:

Abe Babe
Akatsukami
Cajun Man
CrankyAsAnOldMan
DynoSaur
Edward the Head
Elenfair
Eonwe
Equipoise
Gazelle from Hell
Hamadryad
Hardygrrl
HeyHomie
Inertia
JavaMaven
Kimkatt
lel
Lovelee
manhattan
Misstee
Mnementh
Phax
Qadgop the Mercotan
Quixotic
Ringo
RTFirefly
Scribble
Shadez
Sheepi83
Tygre
Whiskey

**Friday Afternoon/Evening and Saturday Afternoon **

Friday Afternoon & Evening – I’ll be hosting a family-friendly (some booze, but no pot :)) barbecue/potluck/plov-o-mania at my place. My darling Boy of Joy will be there so kids are of course welcome. Weather permitting, I have a small yard for kids to run around and there’s a school playlot half a block away, plus all of my son’s crap. Should start sometime in the late afternoon. If you wanna come over and play, drop me an e-mail and I’ll pass along details and directions whenever I get stuff together in the next couple of weeks.

Other stuff people mentioned:

porcupine mentioned possibly using the much-lamented Black Rock as a Friday night bar hangout. I highly recommend, as it’s a kickass bar. And, it’s a five minute walk from my house so if you feel like stopping by, you can do that too.

jarbaby suggested meeting up at the Wild Goose on Lincoln pre-Saturday evening’s event. It’s still within walking distance of the bar so it’s certainly still doable.

The idea of meeting up for pizza somewhere downtown on Saturday afternoon was batted around. Since my son has a baseball game that day, I won’t be able to make it and thus defer any planning to other interested parties.

Kyla mentioned a trip to the Field Museum – don’t know for what day.

And finally: I’m still compiling the cell-phone list, so if you want to be on it, e-mail me. The address is in my profile.

Well, about the Old Town School: if you want to be technical, it wasn’t a move, it was an add-on. (They outgrew their old location, which was indeed in the Old Town neighborhood; the old building is still there, but mostly has kids’ classes and a few adult classes.) The new location opened up about 4 years ago, and I am an enthusiastic member, occasional volunteer, and longtime guitar student. (I just can’t stray away from my hunky teacher Jacob, even if he does have a live-in girlfriend…it’s my love of music, really it is!) They are open for classes on weekends, and there is a small but really cool music store, with musical instruments and accessories, sheet music, and a very well-chosen collection of CDs available for purchase.

If you live in the area but haven’t ventured into the school, I highly recommend their various concert series, especially La Peña, the Wednesday evening Latin music series: $5 suggested donation to hear some world-class groups, plus you can sit in their swanky and smoke-free new auditorium and enjoy a nice beverage and an empanada! What a deal!

For those of you with a sweet tooth, I’m also a big fan of Café Selmarie (www.cafeselmarie.com) ; it’s just across the street from Merz Apothecary. They have yummy food, but even better pastry! Lemme tell you, it’s torture to walk by the window and stare at the raspberry tarts and rum balls on the way to class…they also have a really yummy breakfast/brunch menu, for those of you who will be searching for food after a hard night of revelry.

Umm, okay. I’ve merged the two new threads, one started by Random and one started by Gundy. It looks like the post above made by Gundy on behalf of Random is, in fact, now Random’s OP. I’ve also deleted what would have been a double post by ShibbOleth.

Anyway, the most recent, and now closed Chidope thread may be found here:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=172394

Thanks!

What the…? How did that happen?!

Shibb, what kind of babysitting recommendations are you looking for? I know some reliable and responsible teenagers from my son’s afterschool program that might work for you, but I’m not sure if that’s what you’ve got in mind.

bristlesage and I are going to the Field Museum on Saturday. Everyone is welcome to come along, but be prepared for extreme geekiness. We’re talking people who get giddy over fossils. You’ve been warned.

Gundy, I’m all for reliable and responsible people. That would probably work fine. Only catch will be that they’ll need to be somewhere in the vicinity of my kids, or my kids will need to be in the vicinity of them.

Or if anyone else is in a similar situation we could pool kids together. My kids are typically very well behaved, for some odd reason more so with babysitters than their parents.

Aside: Wow, thread magic performed by UncleBeer… how cool!

Hey! I saw that!

Soooo, Shib…is your wife cute? :slight_smile:

Persephone and I will not be able to attend this time around.

I like to think so. Or as others have much less tactfully put it: “Wow, your kids are cute. Your wife must be really attractive.” The implication is not lost on me.

Drat! Drat! Drat! This is shaping up to look like a great weekend, and I can’t be there.

To make it up, you all have to come to New York next January.

You see? She’s insatiable! It’s not my fault!

Shibb, if you end up being able to use those recommendations then let me know. My son will be staying overnight at my parents’ house; otherwise, I’d see if I could offer whatever babysitter I was using. Good luck and let me know!

Ah, poo. No Billdo, Persephone, or Eutychus. Tho’ we knew about you, Billdo. If I have a job next January, NYC’s on my list.

I want to put in a belated thanks to Hamlet for his efforts, as well as Judith Prietht, Jane D’Oh, Eva Luna, and Zanshin for their world-class bar scouting, as well.

Okay, I admit…I might have a slight libido problem.