{New Dr Who Season, UK pace} [edited title]

Rose’s fault. She kept sneaking it into her bedroom. The Companion has to keep the fire burning somehow. :stuck_out_tongue:

Just coming in to note, re: Amy:

I think the implication was not that Amy was switched out by the Silence when they captured her, but that we haven’t seen the real Amy AT ALL so far this series. She sees eye patch woman in the orphanage before she gets taken by the Silence. I went back to the first episodes, and I honestly cannot see a place where a switcheroo could have happened between when we first see her get the blue invitation with Rory at home, and when she first sees eye patch lady. Also, note – Amy thought she was pregnant in the first episode, and then we and the Doctor see her again three months later, with her belly no bigger, in the second. Either she was switched sometime during that three months, or before we first see her. And given that the Silent in the White House bathroom, for some reason, told her to “tell the Doctor what he should know,” my guess is that it knew she was Flesh, and for some reason it needed/wanted the Doctor to figure it out, which he would only do by being clued into her pregnancy/not-pregnancy.

Eh, I don’t see a reason to spoiler that.

I’d like to point out that he first time we saw Amy pregnant was during the episode with the Dream Lord.

However, Amy could have been grabbed by the Silents any time during her three months running through 1969 America. It appeared that Amy, River, and Rory spread out through the country.

So…we’ll see eventually.

What I’m wondering is if the Silents are actually done and (effectively) gone after Day of the Moon or if they’re still The Big Threat.

I am wondering, assuming they’re not gone, if Eyepatch Woman has an eyepatch to keep her brain edit-free. The Silents’ power seems to work visually. If you aren’t looking at them they can’t get in and edit you.

-Joe

There was also apparently quite a gap between the end of the last series and the beginning of this one, as evidenced by the fact that this series opening with Rory and Amy talking about how long it’s been since they’ve seen the Doctor. Anything could have happened during that gap.

They were responsible for the TARDIS exploding last year. The very first ep, The Eleventh Hour, had Prisoner Zero saying “Silence will fall!”

There is definitely a long game with these guys.

Well, to be fair wasn’t it “The Silence Will Fall” which doesn’t sound like much of a threat since it has a double meaning, one of them not so good for The Silence.

And it’s been a while, how do we know that they were the ones responsible for the TARDIS blowing up?

-Joe

You know what? I can’t remember! All I rememember is knowing full well at the end of the last series that the Silence were the mysterious big bad of the series so far, despite never having appeared.

I can’t tell you what specifically made me think that, but something did - so there’s something in there! I ahve a vague feeling there were multiple Silence references, and there was one right at the end - another big deep throaty “Silence Will Fall!”.

“Yes, they did”.

-Joe

At the end of the last series, it seemed to come to light that the Silence were responsible for the cracks in time, yes? Because every creature that had seen the cracks and not fallen through had mentioned hearing the Silence on the other side?

And the cracks were caused by the TARDIS blowing up.

I think I’m going to want to watch the last two years back-to-back when all is said and done.

I don’t believe the Silence are completely gone. Amy saw one in 2011 during their picnic before Older Doctor was shot to death. So there are at least a few of them left, 40 years later. Or else they are also time travelers, which seems likely, since the age of Amy’s (alleged) daughter is out of chronological order.

Yeah, I thought they were time travelers. Did the Doctor say that the ship in The Lodger (which turned up again in the Silence basement) was a crude time machine?

And even if the Silence are gone from the Earth, they could still be elsewhere in the universe.

Yeah, the fish-aliens in Vampires of Venice last year had fled to Earth from the Silence; they said so.

Magnificent. Can’t think of anything non-spoilery to say. Umm, best Sontaran ever?

The next episode title (it’s a few months) reveals nothing about what has happened before. It is also amazing:

Let’s Kill Hitler

I’m just going to put my whole post in a spoiler box because I’m not sure what’s spoilery and what’s not.

[spoiler]I really. Really. REALLY. REALLY REALLY. Don’t care for stories in which children are hurt, especially not babies, and especially not stories where the children are taken from their parents. I have walked away from movies that featured this type of story before, never to finish it. So the scene where the baby that Amy is holding turns into goo? Yeah, I almost didn’t finish the episode. I mean, how the fuck more traumatic do things have to get for her? It was just too much, too dark, too awful. But I decided that since there were only like 8 minutes left in the episode, I’d finish it out.

And then they totally redeemed themselves, and pulled it out, and made me not only not hate, but actually love this episode by the end! Holy crap! Which is really pretty amazing. Looking forward to some Hitler-killing this fall.[/spoiler]

When that title popped up, I don’t think I’ve ever gone that quickly from total shock to hysterical laughter.

At multiple times, I’ve guessed that the girl in the spacesuit was River or that she was Amy’s daughter. I never put those two together though.

Well there’s a thing.

And a half.

I think this revelation answers a few of the mysteries from the first episode as well.

So how/why does the* bassinet* say River Song on it? The prayer leaf is one thing. And isn’t her telling him that a spoiler?

And dang.

Since we saw her regenerate once already, doesn’t that put a different spin on her death and virtual rebirth in her introduction?

About the little girl who regenerates…

[spoiler]Even if River Song/Melody Pond was conceived in the TARDIS and has “timehead” or whatever she is still predominantly human. Even if she can successfully regenerate (let’s presume she can) that doesn’t mean regeneration for her will be exactly the same as for a Time Lord, which is a different species.

Yes, River was telling the truth all along - she met the Doctor when she was a very young girl… she just didn’t say how young.

As apparently she can regenerate and thus, presumably, has a longer lifespan than a normal human, this would definitely make her attractive to the Doctor as she would be one of the few people who could potentially live as long as he can. It’s already been brought up in NuWho that the comparatively short lives of his human companions is an issue for him.

And did anyone get when said “it’s my birthday” at the beginning? It’s not until the very end that you realize she was speaking the literal truth - where Rory was going literally was the day of her birth.[/spoiler]

Seems to me that the TARDIS was reading AmyGanger as not pregnant but also picked up the very pregnant Amy’s control signal and wasn’t sure what to do.