New 'Ghostbusters' Trailer.

She can do comedy - Hot Tub Time Machine, Bachelorette etc but that wasn’t my point…

I did mean the characters, not the actors. You don’t have a man like Captain Boomerang on your roster if you’re not looking for expendable schmucks. That doesn’t mean they’re bad characters, but it does mean you can’t rely on inertia to do your job selling the comic/movie.

Also, I doubt 9 out of 10 people could pick Jared Leto out of a lineup.

Especially if the lineup included Courtney Cox circa 1987.

I dunno, 30 Seconds To Mars was quite the popular band…

Because I think nearly every one of those actresses is better than the ones we got? I don’t watch SNL, so McKinnon and Jones are complete unknowns to me. I like Wiig well enough, but I’m kind of suffering McCarthy overload.

On the other hand…

– I liked Lizzy Caplan in Cloverfield and Hot Tub Time Machine.
– Emma Stone is good in general, but probably the best thing about the otherwise blah The Amazing Spider-Man.
– Ellie Kemper was on The Office and HILARIOUS. Ditto Aubrey Plaza on Parks and Rec.
– And Jennifer Lawrence is Jennifer Lawrence.

Yes, because playing a frankly racist stereotype is exactly the type of role people are upset about being snubbed.

I mean, I would take issue with you calling her “the black chick,” but that is the role she appears to be playing, so I can’t fault you.

So you don’t have enough information about them to make a decision. I’d actually say McKinnon is the funniest female comedian today.

Jones, on the other hand, I assumed was hired to play the “black” roles on SNL when necessary. I’ve never seen her do anything else.

And, oddly enough, while I don’t tend to like Wiig, I thought she looked good here. She’s so much better when she plays a more serious character who has silly thing happen to her, rather than trying to be the silly one. McKinnon is much better at that.

I was reading a rumor online that said her character actually has a doctorate in history and is only working in a subway toll booth due to the shitty economy.

If true, that’s a brilliant way to play with the cliche.

Maybe I’m giving Feig and Co. too much credit, but I really feel like they’re too… culturally savvy(?) to have her be ‘the loud black woman’ and that’s that.

A ‘she’s an academic too’ twist wouldn’t surprise me at all.

She is listed on one posteras “Municipal Historian” - and why would a booth operator be down in a tunnel, like in the trailer?

Plus the guy writing a tie-in novel tweeted:

FUN FACT: Average salary of an associate professor of physics: $55k. Average salary of an MTA employee: $80k. https://t.co/5R4Rslubq5
— Andrew Shaffer (@andrewtshaffer) March 4, 2016  so it look like there's *some* awareness of the issues there.

Not true:

*The median annual Assoc. Professor - Physics salary is $71,083, as of January 31, 2016, with a range usually between $58,430-$110,181. *

In NYC, it’s much higher than the median. About $90K in fact.

Joker is a super villain, they dont have to have any powers but a diabolical intelligence.
Batman is a top of the line trained martial artist with well-beyond-current-tech technological gizmos. Harly has a baseball bat.

Well, I guess one might hope they didn’t want to spoil the funny bits in the trailer…?

Bill Murray and Dan Ackroyd were huge comic talents at the peak of their powers. The present cast has no such assets. The trailer reflects this. Can one judge a movie on the strength of its trailer? Let’s just say one can make a pretty shrewd guess as to the quality of the film. Perhaps I’m wrong and it will be a feast of fun and frolic that has the audience rolling in the aisles. I rather doubt it.

Irrelevant - when one of the associated writers thinks it’s true, that’s what matters with regard to characterization. Not, grant you, an actual script writer, but still.

Murray was a “huge comic talent” since Meatballs and Caddyshack, earning renown for his roles in Where the Buffalo Roam and Stripes. Dan Aykroyd was known for playing the straight man for other, better comedic talents (e.g. John Belush, Chevy Chase, Eddie Murphy). His starring turns in films like 1941 and Doctor Detroit were not well received, and I think the abominable Nothing But Trouble (his only directorial credit) puts paid to the notion that he is innately funny or carried the weight of writing for Ghostbusters, whereas Harold Ramis has a number of other good films to his credit.

To say that “the present cast has no such assets” is an obtuse statement that does not reflect reality. You may not care for Melissa McCarthy or Kristen Wiig (though the latter’s rendition of the young Lucille Bluth was inarguably the high point of the Netflix-produced fourth series of Arrested Development), or have followed Mckinnon’s stellar rise to the top of the SNL players, but they’re all known quantities, and given how animated GIFs of McKinnon winking and licking her ghost-blaster have started populating the Internet like kittens begging for cheeseburgers, I think it is safe to say the the cast has at least some draw with a portion of the viewing public, if not the population of Reddit posters.

As for being able to “make a pretty shrewd guess as to the quality of the film” from the trailer, go take a look at the link to the trailer for the 1984 version of Ghostbusters; it’s about as funny as drinking wood varnish, with Murray appearing almost asleep. Again, trailers are rarely made by the filmmakers themselves and often don’t reflect the director’s vision or focus of the film.

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To be fair, looking over trailers from some of the most popular movies of 1984, they all suck by modern standards. Slower pacing, usually a narrator over it and just sort of disjointed. As opposed to trailers today which are sort of built like a little 2 minute movie themselves (often even with scenes not in the actual films), the old ones look like someone just took random clips, taped them together and hired a guy to talk over it.

Point being that saying “The trailer for the original Ghostbusters isn’t funny” doesn’t prove much. It was a different time for movie trailers.

As a thought experiment, what if the reboot had an all-male main cast featuring three white comedy actors plus Chris Tucker as his Chris-Tuckeriest.

I can think I can honestly say my reaction would be similar.

Whenever I see someone make this particular mistake, I feel compelled to link to the original trailer for Star Wars.