In the same poll, Obama beats Romney but loses narrowly to Giuliani and McCain.
Possible implications:
The bloom is off McCain’s rose.
HRC’s chances of beating any Pub in '08 are not to be lightly dismissed.
Any poll results taken now are irrelevant because two years is forever in politics and either party might nominate somebody you never even heard of before.
Go Obama!
REAL Change In 2008!
I’ll take door number 3! 
Polls at this time mean nothing. We don’t even know if McCain WILL get the Republican nomination at all…or if he’s crash and burn between now and then. Hell, he may drop out for health reasons or something like that. As for HRC…if you still think she can win, go for it. I’d say an HRC Dem. nominee would mean 4 more years of a Pub in the WH…but thats just MHO.
-XT
Let’s not go to extremes here. While there’s time for voters to change their minds, we’re rapidly running out of time for a complete unknown to form a committee, hire some staff, rasie money, attend major events and make a name for themself. Personally I subscribe to the single-digit midget theory: any candidate who’s not polling at ten percent within six months of the first primary can be written off.
How many people had heard of Bill Clinton in 1998, or Jimmy Carter in 1974? (I mean, outside their own states and outside the ranks of politics junkies.)
Fair point, BUT… Bill Clinton’s competition was Paul Tsongas and Jerry Brown. Jimmy Carter’s competition was Mo Udall and Jerry Brown.
An unknown CAN win, but it helps if he doesn’t have much in the way of competition.
So your point is… the Dems need to draft Jerry Brown to run in the primary?
Heck, I thought the Republican candidate in 2000 was definitely going to be Liz Dole (who I would have voted for in a heartbeat.) Dubya wasnt even considered a serious candidate until the primaries.
Hillary is the front-runner and the talk of the party. I can’t think of a single election where that person won. At the same time, I have no idea who could pop up between now and the primaries. I think she has a tremendous advantage in her husband. He is still the best politician alive and can still captivate an audience.
My dream ticket is slowly becoming Dean and Obama. I like my dreams… I have no idea who I will for vote for in '08 and I probably wont until after the conventions.
I’m sure everyone knows what year you meant, so I’m more surprised no one else has pounced on it yet. My recollections of 1992 are of the ‘Seven Dwarfs’ and that Al Gore was supposed to be on the front of the ticket. (Side note: what ever happened to Mario Cuomo and Bill Bradley? I honestly think either of them would have kicked Dubya’s ass in '04. That would be a great ticket too.)
:dubious: Shame on you, and on her, and on all who would censor punk or heavy metal lyrics.
A helluva lot of people–he was midway through his second term, ferchrissakes.
Daniel
Aren’t you confusing Liz Dole with Tipper Gore?
But Tipper Gore, who headed the PMRC, and Hillary Clinton, who wants to censor video games, they’re just fine.
No double standard here, no siree.
Must have got them confused, sorry . . . I could have sworn Dole were in there somewhere . . .
I despise Tippy. But she ain’t running for nothing, and it’s not fair to hold her husband responsible for her behavior. (Just to put that in perspective, I try really hard to respect Laura Bush, she is a fellow librarian, after all.) As for HRC, I think I’ve made it clear enough often enough that I despise her almost as much as her false-flag DLC-DINO husband. But if it’s a choice between her and any Pub . . . you know, lesser of two evils, art of the possible, the perfect is the enemy of the good, yadda, yadda, yadda . . . In 2000 I campaigned for Harkin, but voted for Clinton in the general, and I’ve never regretted either.
Of course, my own first choice would be Kucinich.
:dubious: Shame on you, and on her, and on all who would censor video or computer games.
Yeh, it really rubbed me the wrong way when Bill worked a pro-v-chip message into his State of the Union address. :rolleyes:
When this silliness was being proposed I wanted my company to bid on the vchip project so that I could work on the nipple detection algorithm.
Has anyone thought about the fact that if Clinton wins, the same two families will have run our country for at least 24 years? Counting Bush Sr’s VP status that bumps up to 32 years.
No thanks.
Exactly, JXJohns. I’ve said this two or three times in threads like this and people seem to ignore it. I’m glad to see I’m not the only person who has this though process. In fact, I’d be all for some sort of provision excluding immediate family members from holding the office of President. No parent-child, no siblings, something like that. We left England…didn’t we?