Priceguy, I think you picked the wrong thread to use as the basis as your criticism. After all, even Airman mentioned “the President” and “Reagan.” It is not difficult to think that today’s President might be relevant to today’s generation.
It should also be noted that President Bush was mentioned as part of an answer to one of Airman’s questions. (He answered all three.)
No offense to you personally, but it was your chastizement that was the hijack for me. I thought his post was on OT.
One of the other examples you mentioned might have been a better illustration of your point.
Considering the nature of this thread, and observing that I still couldn’t resist getting my own shot at the Prez in, I withdraw my previous comments. It would be hypocritical to join the “opposition” when I was guilty of it right here too. :smack:
I’m surprised that so many people have characterized rjung as a “one-trick pony.” Looking at the two threads linked to, as well as his last 20 posts, I disagree with that characterization, and have decided that this is the least-deserved pitting of an individual poster that I have seen in a long time.
See, now you’ve hurt your cause. Because you’ve pointed out the only vaguely positive thing that can be said about rjung - at least he’s not as big an ass as milroyj was.
Anyway, I fully support Miller’s rule. I’d love to see every irrelevant political hijack go, but we could get about half of 'em if Miller’s rule was implemented.
rjung does one thing that’s good, though. He unites us - Democrat and Republican - behind a common cause. Trying to get him to shut his goddamn mouth.
rjung, let me say this one America-hatin’ leftist to another: I don’t care if you’ve posted ten thousand messages unrelated to Bush, each of whose poignant prose is outshadowed only by the depth of thought and research therein. You post countless utterly irrelevant Bush-related hijacks. I doubt I’m a bigger fan of the dude than you are. But that doesn’t mean it’s acceptable to try to end discussions by turning them into screaming hatefests.
No one really cares whether you’re a “one-trick pony” or not (you’ve certainly got at least one other) because even one of these stupid hijacks is too many, and you’ve posted far more than one. Even if your ratio of good posts to irrelevant hijacks was a hundred to one, it’s still too many when I see them in what seems like every other thread I read. (And don’t make me count your posts and do the math. I’ll get bored, and it’ll end up embarrassing for you.)
Why does it matter? We all see you do it, all the time. Taking a week or two off between bashings is not such a great achievement. And even if you prove you’ve done it, who cares? Do you think we’ll all forget what we’ve seen? You can’t argue your way out of people finding your conduct annoying.
Think of it as symbolic of our hatred of all irrelevant Bush hijacks. These two are the biggest offenders, but that doesn’t mean we think they should go away, or that their posts are always without value. It’s just that we’ve seen it enough times that we’re really sick of it. Both contribute elsewhere - but that doesn’t make it okay for them to do this. There’s not some magical ratio that you have to keep your irrelevant hijacking below for it to be okay.
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Ok, ok, I’ll stop. I just take this crap personally because I’d really like to make that whole “irrational screaming leftist” thing even less accurate around here. I don’t like sorta implicitly feeling like I’m in a category with these two.
Yes, that thread is just begging to go off into ABM, nonproliferation and other treaty issues that impact MAD. It’d be quite a trick to bring any of that up without mentioning Bush.
Aw, you’re not playing along with the game, Rufus! It’s very simple:
Somebody tosses out a broad generalization as an excuse to pit a “controversial” poster.
Other folks of a similar ideological bent use that as an excuse to pile on the dude.
Insults are exchanged until people get tired of slinging crap, and everyone retires to their respective corners.
After an indeterminate amount of time X, rinse, lather, and repeat.
Me, I’m just mildly amused by this, especially watching The Usual Suspects[sup]tm[/sup] jump through the hoops. I know Shodan’s week has been made already, as this thread is the closest thing to an orgasm he’ll have until mid-June.
To you, they’re “utterly irrelevant Bush-related hijacks.” To me, they’re mere slivers of my “I’m mad as hell at having the name and honor of my beloved country dragged through the mud by a bunch of hairy-knuckled troglodytes, and I ain’t taking it any more” fury peeking through.
If it bothers you so much, may I recommend judicious use of this board’s Ignore List functionality? Trust me, it won’t bother me none…
You’re not controversial, not even “controversial”. Also, this is not a pitting of you, it’s a thread with a dual purpose: it allows me to respond to you without hijacking the Great Debates thread, and it allows me to pit this behaviour, which I’ve been thinking about doing for quite some time. You just gave me the opportunity.
You’re either a moron or an illiterate. Which is it?
Does it never occur to people that maybe, just maybe, they’re “controversial” (a euphemism if ever I heard one) because their behavior is unpleasant and perhaps even inappropriate? I don’t understand how people can be so certain of themselves - are most people just incapable of thinking, “Hey, maybe I’m wrong, and they’re right.”?
Yeah, cuz it’s a total right-wing wankfest in here, what with noted conservatives Priceguy, Miller, wring, Cervaise, elfbabe, and more engaging in their usual Rush Limbaugh-esque hatred of the left. Yep, it’s all because your beliefs are being bashed by those who disagree. It’s not like the folks who share your politics ever find your behavior unpleasant.
That’s very, very nice. And might I again point out that folks aren’t objecting to your beliefs, just your presentation of them? You can believe as strongly as you want, but that doesn’t make bad manners acceptable.
Besides, they’re irrelevant to everyone. Do you think your constant snarking is changing hearts and minds, here? Like I said, that’s the problem I have with this (well, besides just the irritation I feel whenever anyone steers a thread onto their own pet agenda just to start a fight) is that it makes you and us look bad and it helps the Republicans hang onto power. No one who’s undecided is going to want to be associated with the crazed fanatics who can’t think about anything but how mad Bush makes them inside. You’re just not accomplishing anything here besides annoying everyone else.
Except Reeder. Seriously, couldn’t you guys just meet offline for some nice mutual masturbation and leave us out of it?
Usual Suspects eh? Well I’ve been working on my Christopher Walken impression, so I guess that makes me Kevin Pollak by default. I feel sorry for whoever winds up as Stephen Baldwin.
Rjung, maybe you should look at this thread as a reason to change the overall tone of your posts.
Slivers are annoying as hell. You get one of those stuck in you, and they cause pain and discomfort until you peel off a bunch of skin and yank them out, lest they fester in there. And at the end of it, you’re left with a nasty looking scar for a few days.
So why do you have to inflict your slivers on those who are content to live without them. If you’re mad, why don’t you go pound a pillow or something.
Or maybe we should step up and start reporting every one of his hijacks. At least it’ll make sure the administration is aware of the extent of the problem.
This must be one of those “using a poor referent to describe a larger construct” kind of thing. Airman proposes that we will be in trouble in the future when these young whipper snappers get their fingers on the trigger because they don’t understand the fear of nuclear war and have itchy fingers. rjung counters that we aren’t led presently by men of reasoned conscience, so why wait to worry? Doesn’t seem that outrageous or tangential to me, and was remarkably brief. (I confess that reading the OP here, I was kind of expecting more, so perhaps I was a bit underwhelmed). I did notice that Priceguy reacted very strongly very quickly, showing his own hair-trigger, so perhaps this was a brewing concern on his part.
feh. I agree with Mr. Sarsaparilla above (Rufus Xavier to his friends, but you can just refer to him as “he” or “him”).
