New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

Nope I think I will last time, I had healed him a bit on one of the trash pulls when he pulled aggro but on the last boss fight he died while I was in meta so I thought a heal was a waste of optimal dps time.

There is a Grid layout I use on my pally which is ‘5 man w pets’ or something like that and I didn’t run with that for a while myself and as you all know if it isn’t on your healing frames it might as well not exist.

I have failed 3 times now, first time I was stood in bad (very dumb) second time I charmed a second troll before the first died so it was two against one and last night I pulled aggro from some ghoul things while running around. Careless all three times hence my frustration is really aimed at myself.

They all failed unfortunately it seems everyone was having trouble.

Healing a pet is the same as healing a DPS. You need to do it unless the tank is a global away from dying. A DPS needing to heal his or her pet is taking globals away from their DPS, which what you’re there to prevent.

When I’m healing (and I’ve only run 5 man heroics) I consider pets on a par with dps and heal them as such.

I only heal in raids, and only rarely, because I hate raiding. Way too much stress. Our guild has the general policy of ‘seriously, in raids, your pets are not a priority.’ So it works out.

A Disc priest in a raid is going to be freelancing if they touch a DPS anyway (I do, if the tanks are all well over 50% or I see a dps on death’s door). If anyone’s going to bother healing the pets it should be the raid heals.

Yeah, we pretty much always have at least one shaman bouncing chain heals around, and I’m sure pets eat up some of those. I tend to - if I’m not going insane at the moment - drop a Renew or PW:Shield on anyone with some damage on them, but that’s all I can manage to pay attention to; I’m not going to add pets onto my Grid and complicate it more than my tiny, easily-distracted brain can handle.

Last night I tank healed our DK tank through Team 2’s ICC10. That was fun. Although I have to say, it’s a bit demoralizing to realize that the dot the big adds in LDW’s room put on you to make you explode can now kill your cloth-clad butt. :stuck_out_tongue:

I wound up throwing out heals like confetti on the rest of the raid when he didn’t need it and the raid needed topping off. Despite that I don’t think I ran out of mana much at all, so it seems like I finally have a decent balance of stats. And now I know I can tank or raid heal fine, so whee.

Grid has a pet frame up and I’ll throw a renew on them if I have a GCD free.

Pets are really only an issue in 5-mans. In raids, the raid healer(s) are going to using bouncing/AoE heals that will take care of the pets. It’s single-target healers in 5-mans who probably need to make sure they are watching the pets’ health bars.

Pets shouldn’t need healing at all, 99.9% of the time, and the pet owner can cover that other 0.1%. All pets take massively reduced AOE damage in PVE and are ignored by most serious attacks. In the case of a demo warlock in particular, they’ve got a pet that is exceptionally sturdy and sucks down significant constant passive healing from any damage the warlock is doing.

If your pet is taking damage, that means it’s taking direct damage, which means one of two things:

  1. It’s pulling aggro, which means either your tank is incompetent, or you haven’t turned off your pet’s aggro generating ability. Or both.
  2. It’s getting hit by a fight-specific mechanic, which you should be aware of and take steps to deal with.

For example, in Gundrak, the troll mobs named “Lancer” put up a Retaliation when they get to low health, making them counterattack on any melee attack. This will very quickly destroy any fast attacker. A rogue or enhancement shaman can die instantaneously from it (not even kidding), and they’d be just as wrong to blame the healer for it as a pet owner would be. The end boss also has a whirlwind that puts on a strong bleed. While the pet barely notices the whirlwind itself, the bleed will kill them very quickly regardless of healing and it’s up to the owner to pull them out of melee before & during the whirlwind just as an actual melee should do.

Blizzard has been very lenient in making pets almost so carefree that they’re just a fancy looking DOT, but there are still basics to remember when using one.

As a Hunter, I realize my pet is my responsibility and I don’t expect a healer to heal him unless there’s nothing else to heal :smiley: (like that happens!). I was really happy when someone rezzed my pet, because I was waiting until we started the battle again (it was a wipe, except I Feigned Death) because Heart of the Phoenix rezzes the pet where it died (so in the middle of the mob).

This is how a real man would do it to begin with :).

The tabard that Paladins get (at least Horde-side) for doing the level 70 questline is my favorite in the game. I can’t remember the name of it though, so no link.

It’s the Blood Knight Tabard, and yes, it’s one of the best in the game. It’s a shame that the only way to get it is to go through a long, expensive, and unnecessary quest chain (paladins get their level 60 horses for free now), but it’s totally worth it.

Looks like you’ve been eating too many Mustard Dogs!

Anyone have any experience with 10 man Yogg-saron and have some tips for our brain room team I can pass along? All our attempts last night ended with the brain room team either going insane because they didn’t do enough damage to escape, being killed in the brain room, or getting out of the brain room but not having enough time to actually damage the brain.

:frowning: <---- That’s me…totally bummed. Good luck though! Can I still send you stuff to DE and mats for Frostweave Bags?

If you need a PUG, recommend me if you need a mdps.

Absolutely on both counts, Yeti!

I know y’all don’t need me to tell you this, but let’s keep on letting this thread be the nicest one on the whole Dope.

I have bragged on this since I discovered y’all so don’t make me regret it, okay?

[stated as a stern “dad” who loves everyone who has helped me level!:)]

Quasi

Thanks Nava!:slight_smile: