New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

Also, isn’t ammo going away soon anyway? In either 4.0.1 or Cata?

Also Quasi, the reason you couldn’t swap back to your sword instead of the skinning knife is probably because you were already in combat. I don’t think you can switch weapons while you are in combat, you have to wait until the combat ends first. (That’s the reason I’ve killed many things by beating them over the head with my fishing pole). Also, you don’t ever need to equip your skinning knife – as long as it is in your bags, you can skin things with it. Never mind if you had equipped it accidentally.

Well, the problem with using a weapon that you’re less skilled with is missing. A lot. Continuously and uninterruptedly, if your weapon skill is much below your max (5 x your level). In the case of a nearly 300-point discrepancy, count on hitting nothing. Each miss will still increase your skill a point, but if your survival depends on your ability to hit, I’d pick non-threatening targets to start with. In other words, start using the new weapon on drastically under-level enemies. You won’t kill them for a long time (because you won’t hit them), and when they hit you it won’t hurt too much. When you start killing them before they can give a point of skill, move on to somewhat higher-level mobs. At some point, you’ll be within 50 points of your level max, and IMHO that’s close enough to begin using the weapon in earnest for day-to-day stuff. I wouldn’t raid like that, not without some prior warning to raid leadership (so they know that your DPS will be off for a while), but enough for questing and such.

After my hunter main dinged 80, an OCD streak kicked in and I swore I’d master every weapon in the game a hunter can learn except thrown weapons. It took about a week of killing stuff in Outland, but all weapons skills are 400.

Why? If I see a good weapon drop in a raid or instance, I know I can use it immediately without impacting my ability to do damage. For ranged weapons, I even carry a spare scope, so I can enchant the thing. If I have to win a contested need roll for a really good weapon, I feel badly not equipping it immediately.

As to non-hunter weapon itemization, the best example is Rowan’s Rifle of Silver Bullets, a tanking weapon: strength, stamina, dodge, parry, and hit rating. The exception, rather than the rule, but they do exist.

A less spectacular example of the same phenomenon is Armor Plated Combat Shotgun, an engineering-made tanking rifle.

Heh. Bane of my existence. I don’t know how many times I’ve stood there like an idiot at the start of a fight poking movement and attack commands into the keyboard… into a party chat entry box…

Which means that at some point, I hit enter and actually begin playing, while the others in the group are left wondering “why did that dope just say ‘www70562wweeeeewwww’?”

Yeah, I think he looks better with the crossbow, jayjay. I had thrown at one time, but I just liked the coolness and the sound of pulling back the string better. I have never looked at “bonuses”. I’ll take a look this afternoon.

Skammer, the thing with swapping was we had already FINISHED when I tried to do that. I was at a high enough level to where it didn’t matter, we got the kill - itjust took a little longer.

I knew about the auto-skin (just click on the skin icon), but since the knife is on my action bar, I hit it by mistake. I guess I need to open my spellbook and move it back in there? It’s also in my bag and also on the action bar going up the right side of my screen. I’ll do a pic later this afternoon. For some reason I get my bars screwed up really bads sometimes.

Thanks, guys

Q

:D:D:D:D Glad I’m not the only one that happens to!

AlsoI have noticed that some items I have auctioned and that I have on Wolkie have something called “disenchant”. What is that, and why would I want his pants “disenchanted”. Does that mean that if some pally decides he doesn’t like us, we may suddenly be without our britches? (I know that would have to be done in PvP, though, right?)

Thanks

Q

Yeah, you don’t need to have the skinning knife or the skinning ability icon on any of your action bars. As long as the knife is in your bag, you can just right-click on the beast after you’ve looted it to skin it.

I forgot to mention the “moving while a chat window is open” thing, which I also do all the time. If you don’t want to say “eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrcdddddddddd” when you realize what’s happening, you can always hit Escape to close the chat box without saying anything. That way I still feel like an idiot but at least know one else knows!

:smiley: That would be awesome! (speaking as a pally).

No, it means that someone with the Enchanting profession can disenchant that piece of gear (if they posess it) to get enchanting mats. They can’t disenchant if if you are wearing it or if it’s in your bags. But if you know an enchanter, having them disenchant some of your bind-on-equip items can give you mats that might auction for more than the piece itself would. Generally though, you don’t have to worry about it.

Yeticus Rex, it’s a scam. (All Blizzard urls point to Blizzard.com. You see the bottom link leads to a support article, but the real cincher is the one above, which leads to [noparse]“infoverity-admin.us”[/noparse]) I broke the links in your post to make sure nobody accidentally clicked on them.

If you want to safely post suspected phisihing mails, you can use the [ noparse][ /noparse] tags to disable direct linking, by the way. (I didn’t use that when I broke your links because it breaks the quote function.)

Fun times with the guild last night–we ran some TBC raids to (a) celebrate finally killing H-LK-25 and (b) see if we could get any of the weapons we still need for the Legendary achievement. I’d never seen BT before–that was great, and it made me regret again not having started raiding until Wrath. Bonus being that I was able to polish off a few quick quests on my farming DK to ding him to 70 and then bring him along to Kara. Of course, the RNG decided to be spiteful and not drop a single piece of Plate DPS gear off a boss. At least he still walked away with Leather bracers, an Agi cloak, and a pair of green (!) boots that were all still upgrades from what he’d been weaing.

I can see why they’re doing it–they want people to spread back out to the old-world capitals. But this is an example of terrible design. People set their hearths to Dalaran because it has great functionality: the ability to get yourself quickly across continents. The good, and harder, way of getting people to keep their hearths in the old world would be to make those capitals less attractive. The quick, and lazy, way of doing it is to just remove the good stuff from Dalaran.

IMO, they should make chained portals between the old-world capital cities. You can’t get to all other cities from each other one, but each one connects to another. E.g., SW > IF > Darn > Exo > SW, or Org > TB > UC > SM > Org.

IMO, absolutely. The XP bonus is amazing, and having Cold Weather Flying right at 68 makes everything so much easier. If $25 isn’t a big deal to you, I’d definitely say go for it.

There’s one option to repair single items, and there’s one to repair everything. The one that repairs everything also takes care of the items in your bags.

Yup. It’s really annoying when it happens in raids and you can’t figure out why you didn’t strafe out of the fire in time… until you look at your chat log and realize that you just tried to reply to a whisper and tell someone “DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.” :smack:

Bows and Crossbows use different weapon skills, but that doesn’t matter unless you’re a Hunter. For a Warrior, your ranged weapon (Bow, Crossbow, Gun, or Thrown Weapon) serves exactly two purposes:

1.) Pulling mobs at range.
2.) Acting as a “stat stick”–something that’s just there to give you extra stats.

For #1, it doesn’t matter what your weapon skill is. If you shoot something and miss, it’s going to come running at you anyway. For #2, it’s even less relevant, because you don’t have to be able to hit something with a weapon to get the benefits from it–just equip it.

Incorrect. Your main hand and offhand are the only two slots where you *can *change what you have equipped in combat–it just triggers a GCD. The only potential exception is something like a Warrior’s Shield Wall–if you equip a Shield and trigger it, you can’t un-equip the shield until the buff runs down or you cancel the buff.

If you want to take something off your bars, just take it off. You never have to put it “back” somewhere else, because it never left there. An action bar button is just a shortcut–it isn’t a location itself. Anything that is on your action bar is *also *in your bags or in your spellbook.

If they did that without removing the Dal portals, people would still all hang around in Dal, because those portals aren’t as good. (Even if every portal drops next to the other portal, that’s still 2 or 3 loading screens if your next destination doesn’t happen to be the next one on the chain).

Getting between capital cities isn’t too bad, at least for Horde, except for TB. UC and SM have a direct portal, and UC/Org have a zep that’s not terribly slow. It’s getting from Org to TB that’s annoyingly slow (tho it will be better when you can fly yourself instead of taxi).

The real PIA will be getting back and forth to Shatt and Dal if there is no direct portal. For Shat, you can port to the Outland portal gate from any capital but then you have to fly clear across Hellfire Peninsula to get to Shatt. For Dal, from Vanguard Keep or Warsong Hold you have to fly across half the continent to get to Dal.

Indeed. And the TB-to-Org zep is a joke. I think the taxis are faster. I’m sure they are if you take into account the likely wait time.

Yeah. Hopefully they’ll also put the high level stuff vendors in the faction capitals so people don’t have to go to Dal to buy their level 450 enchanting recipes and suchlike. We’ll see.

I’m still a ways away from being able to buy more than one piece of gear, so hopefully by the time I have enough heirloom gear to make the $25 worth it the rumours of cross-server BoA mailing could come true!

I waited almost half an hour at TB. I waited. And waited. And waited. There was another guy waiting and I told him I thought this taxi to Org might just be a myth. But still, I waited. They said a zeppelin would come, and damnit, I would take that zeppelin!

It eventually came and took the most random, stupid course to Org. I probably could have gotten on my mount, rode to Org and back twice in the time I waited for that fucking zeppelin.

On the other hand, it makes my Kirin Tor ring a pretty worthwhile investment. Even if I don’t wear it anymore, I keep it in my bags for the free hearth to Dal. On the third hand, once I’m questing in the new zones, I can’t think of a really good reason I’ll need to go back to Dal again.

LOL. I’ve done that. Several times. My mage has been known to run an entire heroic with a fishing pole equipped. Also did…whatever they call that thing with the jousting at the start…ToC?..with my lance equipped all the way through the Black Knight fight.

I’ve done the same on my druid (in lower level dungeons), but my excuse there is he was in tree form at the time.

To be fair, the zep from TB to Org is really only there so that lowbies in Durotar can go to TB and vice-versa without having to run 123000 miles through the ugly, boring Barrens.

Dalaran is going to be deserted unless they keep certain vendors there which would be odd and frankly annoying.

The only reason to take the TB-Org zepplin is if you don’t have both flight points (or any in between, really). For baby mount-less toons it might make sense to take it once, but after that the 5-minute taxi ride is much faster, if still annoying.

On the one hand, I’m annoyed at the loss of the portals.

On the other hand, I’m thrilled that the population of Dalaran will be spread among 6-8 cities now.

The special vendors in Dal will be useless except to people who are questing in Northrend, so it’s not like level 85 characters will need to go back. It will make things tougher for people doing fishing dailies, unless those get changed too. That’s about all I can think of offhand that will be a problem.

It’s not even 5 minutes. IIRC it’s less than 2. The zepp really is just there to ameliorate the pain of the Barrens; it had to be annoying for baby Tauren to leave Mulgore and find themselves having to dodge level 20 beasts in the southern Barrens.

I know that now, but it was my first Horde toon, and I figured the zeppelin was actually useful, like the one between Org and Tirisfal.