New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

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Didn’t end up getting nearly as much done yesterday as I’d planned–I was just too wiped after work. I ran BRC probably about a half-dozen times, ToT once, and got enough questing done in VJ to get my mount. (Am I crazy, or are all the seahorses the same color? If so, that’s lame.) I think I was probably about halfway through 81 to 82 when I logged off Sleutel.

I also got my Worgen started, so that I could clear all of the stuff I had saved for her out of my mule’s bank and bags.

For the starter dungeons, ToT is gorgeous and has a really interesting design, but BRC gives way better XP. I am really enjoying the quest designs for the new zones–both 80+ and Worgen starter.

Here’s hoping I feel up to pushing a lot farther tonight!

I don’t have a list of racials in front of me, but I get the very strong feeling that this is not the case. Don’t Worgen get a straight-up 1% chance to Crit, for example? That’s huge.

WAG, those aren’t amateurs. Those are powersellers. They deal in volume, which means fucking over anybody who doesn’t have the time to play the AH and is just trying to list a handful of items.

Actually, the big problem with the neutral AH is that it takes a much bigger cut of the sale price. That’s why you always list items for 1c each bid and buyout. You just have to be on the ball with the friend who’s helping you mule–thus, Vent.

Tanks were already running around with well over 50k completely unbuffed at the end of Wrath. I fully expect to see 100k unbuffed tanks in T11.

Nope! Keep doing the quests–you’ll see! You start as a regular human, but then you get bitten…

I know. :smiley: I pulled the old “answer a joke with a real response” trick.

That *is *what it refers to. But not in a “you get to swear at people in public and it’s okay” sense. It’s a “you can’t sue us if someone says naughty things to your child” disclaimer.

Pretty sure we’d mentioned this more than once. Old Weather Flying (I’m sad they didn’t keep the name :() was made a trainable skill deliberately so they could limit it to accounts with Cata, changed from the original version of just all flyers working in Azeroth.

The spell just means that you can move around more easily in the zone. You don’t have to worry about running out of breath, and when you’re on the floor of the ocean, you can run along it at a regular fast speed. You might find the other Cata starter zone easier, though–Mount Hyjal. You’ll want to talk to the NPC standing next to the portal in the little gardeny-parky area of the Stormwind Keep to get started. (You can pick up the quest to talk to her from the quest board in the Trade District.)

IIRC, that always happens and it doesn’t necessarily mean your name was taken. (Or maybe it just always happens to my toons because I leave placeholder alts on the server to make sure I get the name.) Regardless, if you can see him, you can play him. And you can always at least try renaming the toon to its original name.

Congrats!

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It wants you to download the client because your work computer doesn’t have it. When you get home, you should put in your new Cata DVD (the game comes on DVDs now) and install from that. It should go very quickly (mine only took a couple of minutes), and then you may have some very minor patching when you log on. I have no idea where the 15 GB **Rik **got was from.

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Undoubtedly. My tank was around 50k unbuffed at Wrath and now, in DPS gear about half-way through level 83 (only quest gear), I’m at 60k.

In fact, one thing I would recommend to levelers is to consider replacing your old gear earlier than you might think. In particular I was not recognizing the huge stam boosts the DPS gear had (and thus just DE’ing it, assuming my 264 gear was better). The mobs in Deepholm and later hit hard, and that extra HP is very welcome.

My guild had someone about 15 minutes from realm first, but we did get realm first Priest and Warrior (and Tailor, I think).

Did anyone else experience the bug with guild rep? It stopped at around 150 friendly and posted the “reached maximum for the week” message. I came back at night and suddenly started getting rep again (ended at 4k/6k friendly - and then got the “maximum for the week” message). I wonder if they hot-fixed the maximum you can earn per week.

If it is 7k per week then it would take an even 6 weeks to get to exalted - that sounds about right, no (as far as guild-hopping and what-not)?

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Another thing I noticed yesterday…the Cata launch apparently wiped my mage’s pet name. RIP Poseidin. He was a good water elemental. :frowning:

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That popped up about a week or two ago, actually. I noticed it too. Ah well.

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Here’s a cite for the 100k HP tanks - this guy just dinged today (I guess, he was 84 when I logged off last night), and is wearing what appears to be mainly quest gear - average iLvl 328. HP unbuffed - 117k

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Yeah, it was around then that I noticed Puddles was just “Water Elemental” again. :frowning:

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Oh this was strange: I logged into my pally last night (after installing the upgrade) and found that I had left him in Dalaran. Oh, well, I thought, and hearthed to Org – I had reset his hearth to Org before the last patch.

Imagine my suprise then when my hearthstone took me to the inn in the Bazaar section of Silvermoon. What?! That was a pain, since I had to go to Org. Did anyone else have their hearth reset somewhere?

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I got the physical platter from best buy.

I was up and playing in about 15 minutes.

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I’m far from up to date on the Cataclysm end-game DPS changes and combat ratings, but I’d be amazed if 1% crit is out of line with the expertise bonuses, hit bonus, other crit bonuses, dodge bonuses, pet damage bonuses, or the on-activation dps boosts. If you want to call a worgen mage doing 2.3% more DPS than an undead mage “overpowered,” that’s a bit silly.

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Both of my 80s who I tried it on had their hearths reset to their home race’s town at the 4.0.3 patch - Silvermoon for my blood elf and Thunder Bluff for my tauren. I think my spriest was already in Org and haven’t tried hearthing him since the patch.

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That makes sense; this may have been the first time I’ve used his hearth since 4.0.3. My Undead priest was already hearthed in Undercity so I woudn’t have noticed a change.

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[QUOTE=smiling bandit]
Short version: Worgen Druid with Engineering and Herbalism.
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If you don’t mind my asking, how are you specing your Druid? And what gear are you orienting too (i.e. what stats are you looking for)? I had a druid a long time ago, but I deleted him and rolled up a new one yesterday, but I’m having some trouble using him effectively. I though I’d spec him Feral, but I seem to always be on the verge of death after fighting one or two even con mobs…more than that and I am dying a lot. Yet I though Druids were supposed to be pretty powerful (perhaps in a group? I’m doing most stuff solo or with a single guild friend who also rolled up a new Worgen).

Any advice would be much appreciated, as if nothing else the Worgen Druid LOOKS too cool to not level up.

-XT

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I’m not smiling bandit, but my second 80 was my druid. I specced Boomkin, and I love it. Haven’t done any of the Cata content on him yet, but his dps is pretty solid. At a gear score of about 5200, I was doing 4K+ on heroic bosses. Very nice AoE, though Starfall is kinda dangerous. It will hit anything in a huge area, so popping in in dungeons…especially cata dungeons, where I hear crowd control is important, is likely to be situational. The regular AoE spell…Hurricane, I think…is very nice. Takes a little longer than a mage’s Blizzard to hit, but seems to do better damage.

The boomkin form party/raid buff is +haste, which everybody likes, and there is also the castable buff that improves all stats.

In a pinch, I can drop out of boomkin form for emergency heals, and if the tank drops, I have saved wipes by switching to bear form and tanking a bit.
On gear, I look for Int, Sta, and Spirit. For boomkins, spirit buffs +hit.

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I’m loving the expansion so far. Sadly my window for working half-days is rapidly coming to a close.

What I’ve seen of the new zones has been very well designed. Vashj’ir is really cool, and has sea horses! My one gripe is that I’ve encountered repeated errors with the big story line quests - first a missing NPC in the Maiden of Battle line, and now an interminable sub ride making it impossible to complete ‘Defending the Rift.’ A server reset fixed the first one for me, maybe next time I log in the second will work as well.

I’m having so much fun exploring and questing on Makig that I haven’t got any playtime in on my Goblin mage yet.

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Dumb question, akin to asking if you’ve plugged your computer monitor in, but you ARE using your Cat and Bear forms, right?

Cats are very much like Rogues, so you want to play like a Rogue – sneaky with overwhelming force on a single enemy – while Bears are more like Warriors. When leveling, I typically play as a Cat unless I realize I’m in over my head, then I switch to Bear and just outlast the enemy.

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[QUOTE=Bosstone]
Dumb question, akin to asking if you’ve plugged your computer monitor in, but you ARE using your Cat and Bear forms, right?
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I only have cat form so far, but yes…I’m using it. Basically, I generally put the thorns damage shield on, then pull with the insta-cast DOT (don’t remember what it’s called), the switch to cat form and use the high initial damage attack form (with dot), then the lower damage attack dot, and build up action points to finish with the only finishing attack I currently have. In general I’m down to less than half my hit points by this time if I’m fighting a single even con mob, and if I’m fighting two I usually have to leave cat form and cast the instant HOT spell and maybe the quicker cast heal before going back to cat form to continue the attack.

Well, that might be my problem then. I haven’t been playing the cat like a rogue, since I didn’t see it had any backstab or other abilities to attack from stealth. I’ve been playing it like a tank, pulling mobs and then switching forms.

[QUOTE=Oakminster]
The boomkin form party/raid buff is +haste, which everybody likes, and there is also the castable buff that improves all stats.
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I’m still too low level for the moonkin form…I don’t even have Mark of the Wild yet (which is the spell, IIRC, that gives the all stats buff). I’ve never played a Druid this way before, though, and it sounds interesting…almost like a caster that can heal and even tank if needs be. That sounds like something that I would enjoy playing.

-XT

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I had this problem, too.

Rolled a Troll Druid. Combat Kitty becomes available at level 8 now. But in the end, I stayed in humanoid form, and spammed wrath.

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I congratulate you on your taste. I’m going Feral, although while levlling you can bounce around a lot and have fun. You won’t be running heroic dungeons without the right build, but you can still tank for normal stuff, go melee DPS mostly, and heal one you pick up a second talent tree option.

Feral is easy. Early-game, just use Bleed, Mangle twice, and then a finisher (though many mobs won’t last that long). Pick up the best DPS wepaon you can. I believe slower is actually better, but it hardly matters because your best are almost always 2-handed hammers and staves, which have the same speed actor. You want DPS -> Agility -> Strength. Never use Claw, because it’s automatically worse for Kitty.

Also, use Kitty for one mob, but if you get jumped, either run or IMMEDIATELY switch to bear. Bear == Survival. Kitty == Damage. Survival > Damage if there’s ever a choice.

You can (if you’re a Kool Katt like me) use Kitty to rapidly down enemies then swap to caster form for a quick heal. And you can use heals proactively and then pull withstarfire and then switch to Kitty just in time to pop a bleed. But this is a little dependant on what talents you take, because you really need Furor to make this work.

Stamina can be nice for odd bits of tanking, but abilities do come slower now so you have to be careful before you get your Bear AoE. I any event, leather pieces aren’t that distinct from each other before Outland, so it’s not like you’re swimming in oceans of choices.
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In other news, Sylvanas continues her lifelong pursuits of heinous evil combined with absolute failure. She’s so bad that even Garrosh freakin’ Hellscream thinks she’s actually too monstrous. She had to actually be bailed out by huge masses of Orcish reinforcements, which got trashed brutally by the Night Elves. And that was when the Gilneans were trying to take non-combatants to flee.

Why Garrosh wanted her to take Gilneas is something of a mystery, unless he was actively trying to bripple her numbers. This probably worked, because she’s now embroiled in a guerrilla war against people she can’t raise as undead slaves.

For a brief recap: Sylvanas launches a brutal, murderous assault against people who did her no harm, for land she has no use for, unleashing biological weapons to cover for her own incompetence, and still got her ass kicked thoroughly. She was nearly killed by Genn Greymane showing hw could take the Forsaken to sk3w1, and then actually killed again before being saved by a Deus Ex Machina. Since she pretty obviously has no moral compunctions about her evil, it’s clear that she didn’t attack Crowley when she had the chance because she honestly didn’t think she could take him. Time for the Horde to do reality itself a favor and turn her into fertilizer.

And she should be afraid. Crowley can Cleave with his fists. Saurfang move over; there’s a new Worgen on the block.

To recap: Sylvanas managed to claim a patch fo land where she will be bogged down in unending war, while offering her no resources. She got the crap kicked out of her twice, sustained massive casualties, and was unable to stop scattered refugees even after the Worgen Curse turned Gilneas into one giant set for An American Werewolf in London. Her sole “big victory” was killing a brave young lad trying to save his people and their homeland. Suck it up, Sylvie - you’re just like the Lich King now.

*It’s never made clear, but I believe it’s implied that Liam was a Worgen, too. it’s hinted that he might be a bit reckless, you find him early on resting outdoors, wearing pants, but shirt or shoes, etc. And I don’t think he ever enters personal combat, so he wouldn’t lose control.

Grats Sylvie! I wonder if there’s an achievment for sucking as much as you?

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You’ll get a backstab pretty soon (level 10-12 or so). And it sounds to me like you’re probably getting less out of your thorns & moonfire than you would from starting with a full energy bar. I usually hit rip (dot) then mangle then the finishing move (whatever it is) unless I’m feeling like being fancy and using the backstab attack. Course I’ve also got heirlooms so my stats are a bit higher than you’d have.