New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

I think 62 is the last level you’ll get it in the RDF so you’ll win soon enough, keep fighting the good fight! :smiley:

I say enjoy it while it lasts. Pretty soon it’ll start dumping you in Mana Tombs. Then you’ll really be crying the blues! :stuck_out_tongue:

See that little box that starts off with “All our friends…”?

How do I get rid of that? I really don’t need it because it blocks my view, but don’t know what to disable.

Thanks

Q

As you said, it’s dicey. All it takes is a bit of latency or a bit of bad RNG and you’ll have lost the tank. In Wrath a tank healer essentially spam healed, because the tank was always in danger of getting 2 or 3 shot. Would it not be more beneficial for you to swallow your pride and decrease the chance of wiping rather than insisting that you can handle everything by yourself?

And now thinking back I guess I’ll have to partially retract my statement of healing going back to the wrath model. We aren’t quite there yet with tank damage. I still think we’ll likely be at that point in the next tier, just because I don’t think Blizzard can come up with any other way of increasing difficulty.

Related: I have never seen Throne of the Tides. I have done Halls of Origination and Vortex Pinnacle at least a dozen times each.

Don’t mistake my complaint now for thinking that I was being a whiny diva about it at the time. Of course I understand that the team comes before me and I never complained about it. But that didn’t magically make it fun for me.

One thing you can do, depending on how tolerant you are for reading smaller text on your screen, is to change your UI scale. I’m not in front of the computer right now but I think the setting is under Video. There’s a slider–if you move it down a bit, you will make all the interface elements smaller (your action bars, quest log text, your portrait up in the corner, etc.) It won’t make the world or your character smaller, just the stuff overlaid over it.

That won’t fix the hovertext problem you’re showing directly (I’m not sure how that happens–is it a default thing if you hover over your quest list? Maybe I’ve never done that) but it will move your quest list over more to the right of your screen and clear out more screen real estate.

Well, info, my problem with that is that I don’t like to use my glasses when I play, and I need them for the small print. Everything else is okay, and I know how that happens, I think. I somehow slide the cursor over, like you said, too far and it makes that box pop up.

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Other stuff:

Since training for artisan riding (and paying that 4 grand!), I have already made 1200 of that back, by farming (auctioning) and questing the dailies. It woulda been more, but today was my alts’ payday (they get 25 g a week. I know, but I like to pretend they’re real and this is their “start up” money).

Fishing question: I am now a level 175. Do I need to start keeping my catch to use for cooking, which is next, or what?

I’m catching imperial mantas and Borean men o wars now, but they only sell for coppers anyway, so I have been vending them.

Also, I want to upgrade my fishing gear (better rod - graphite, and a hat) as soon as I can.
And… this morning early there were 3 pages of borean leather. When I checked a little while ago to put in 3 stacks, there were only 2 entries, and they were selling for 50 bid and 60 buyout.

Now I know all about supply and demand, but that stuff just ain’t worth that much, so I priced mine at 22 and 25.

That was wrong, wasn’t it? I should have put my prices more in that other guy’s range, but I just couldn’t do it - it just didn’t seem like the right thing to do…

Thanks

Q

Also related: I’ve done Throne and Blackrock once each, Stonecore and Halls a couple of times, Grim Batol a few more, and Tol’Vir a metric fuckton. I’m talking dozens. Over and over and over and I think I could run it blindfolded. :smiley:

That box came up because you right-clicked on the quest. I think you can get rid of it by hitting ESC or maybe by randomly clicking around your screen (clear areas, not on UI elements).

I checked on a toon of mine, and that box happens when you right click on the quest “All our friends…” in your objectives list. You can make it disappear again by right clicking on the quest or hitting ESC (per Headrush).

Clicking around on clear space on your screen doesn’t work.

I find that, when in doubt, hit ESC. It works for dismissing a lot of UI elements.

Yep, also get Tol’Vir about 80% of the time. I’ve never been randomly put in Deadmines or Grim Batol.

Ditteaux. I had to manually queue for it. RDF seems to hate that instance. I’ve had easily half a dozen runs through each of HoO, GB, VP, and Tol’Vir. I got Stonecore once on a random, but I dinged out its RDF level range that very run.

I gues I should have RDF’d more when I was still an 80 or 81. I probably would have had ample opportunity to grow tired of ToT and BRC, but while I was leveling they still had the restrictions on being able to queue for an instance you hadn’t “discovered” yet, and leveling was so quick that the only instance I found in time for RDF to get me into it was BRC while I was leveling Hyjal, and I dinged out of RDF eligibility for that instance pretty soon after. :mad:

So I’ve had to manually queue for those; a bit slower than RDF, but not horrible.

Somebody else already answered your question, but I thought I’d point out that if you click that little button with the up-arrow at the top-right of the list, you can “collapse” the quest list so it’s not covering so much of your screen (and so that you’re not accidentally clicking on things). You can click the button again to “uncollapse” the list.

Make sure you do the fishing daily quests in Stormwind and Dalaran every day. There’s a chance of getting a Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat in the reward bag (wear the hat while you’re fishing for a +5 to your fishing skill, and you can also right-click the hat while you’re wearing it to attach a +75 lure to your pole). There are also a couple special, blue-quality fishing poles you can get in the reward bags: the Bone Fishing Pole and the Jeweled Fishing Pole. However, both of those poles require that your Fishing skill be 300 before you can use them. Doing the Stormwind fishing daily will help, because those quests will give you +1 or +2 to your skill each time you do them.

In the meantime, there are a couple quests you can do for better poles. In The Hinterlands, do this quest here to get Nat Pagle’s Extreme Angler FC-5000 pole (requires 100 Fishing skill to use). In Shattrath City in Outland, you can find that little boy Seth and do his quest, “Rather Be Fishin’”, and he’ll give you Seth’s Graphite Fishing Pole (requires 200 Fishing skill to use).

Of course, the grandaddy of fishing poles is the Mastercraft Kalu’ak Fishing Pole (requires 300 Fishing skill to use). To get that, you’ll need to do all or most of the Kalu’ak quests in Northrend (they’re in Borean Tundra, Howling Fjord, and Dragonblight), and then do their daily quests until you reach Exalted with them. Then they’ll sell you the pole - it costs more than 100g.

Since your other questions have been answered I’ll tell you my strategy for fishing and cooking.

I do them both at the same time. There are cooking recipes for fish in all levels of cooking. I’ll catch a bunch of a certain fish and then cook them thus leveling both skills at the same time.

I know for certain there are cooking recipes for Imperial Mantas and Borean Men o Wars. I don’t remember where those recipes are but they are out there.

I’ll second Rik’s mention of the Kaluak for the pole. Even if your fishing isn’t high enough and you are not exalted with them you can still do dailies for them, I think there are four or five, and by doing so you’ll get more gold and reputation for the Kaluak and eventually you’ll be exalted and then buy the pole.

Whenever I start and alt and get into Northrend the first thing I do is Kaluak quests and then their dailies to get that fishing pole. I have four toons with that pole.

Help! I’ve lost the ability to cast my fishing line from the action bar. It will only cast if I go to professions and right click on the rod icon. I probably hit the wrong button during my killing frenzy a while ago, but it will equip. Just won’t cast.

How do I fix this and thanks for your suggestions! I will look up the Kaluaks and also Rik’s suggestions, but I’m not real good these days at doing two things at the same time, which is why I asked if the higher value fish could be stored in my bank bags.

HAHAHAHA!.

Probably have to replace 'em after a while, huh?

Thanks

Q

Fishing pole problem solved by a GM. No idea what happened, but apparently auto-attack was switched out with the pole.

Q

I like to play early in the morning when the kids are in bed (supposedly) sleeping, and they’re not running around on my screen with these huge-ass bug-looking things which take up almost a whole plaza, the streets and taverns.

What makes it worse, I believe they deliberately position themselves in such a way as to be as aggravating as possible while they watch you try to position yourself so that you can make contact with a vendor, repair-person, merchant or auctioneer.

Not only that, but those huge wings beating up and down don’t help with one’s vision.

I do know about, and use the alt w command, but even then one has to use it 3 or 4 times before one can get into position.

So I am wondering what idiot at Blizz allowed this to happen and don’t they realize what a hole they’ve dug for themselves as far as time-wasting and (maybe) bandwidth?

I know they don’t take suggestions, but here’s mine: when a player on a mount enters a city, the mount becomes a size which people can easily maneuver around and when they leave the city, the mount may then revert to its huge-ass size.

This would then allow everyone to conduct their business in a timely manner and get the hell out and back to questing or battling.

Some of those little bastards can really get snotty when you ask them to move so you can see. I don’t put up with that shit so on report they go.

I guess it’s part of our “my dick’s bigger than your dick, therefore I’m the alpha person” culture, but goddam.

Anyway, just needed to vent after having to watch poor Wolkie’s face being batted over and over by those friggin’ wings! :slight_smile:

Q

Quasi, I’ve been trying to come up with good wording so that I can announce in General chat that I’m going to be offering a class at Stormwind University called “Remedial Reading for Druids”. Just because I figure people with, say, first-grade reading skills are overwhelmingly attracted to that class. My evidence for this is the astonishing number of times I’ve seen druids in flight form zip up to the SW cooking or fishing daily questgivers and then hover there for several minutes. I assume they’re having to painstakingly sound out every word, and that’s what’s taking them so long.

I agree that there are times where it feels like throughput is heavily outweighing mana management in end-game raiding (I’d like to hear what mil0 has to say on this, too, since he has cleared the content), and there are fewer fights where I’m even calling for Innervates. I try to “heal within my means,” so to speak, though not using those Innervates is a waste. Right now, V&T and H Nefarian are the only fights where I’m using them regularly.

However, I do think that it raises the skill bar significantly from WotLK healing. I honestly never felt much mana constraint in either H Halion or H LK, but instead a GCD/CT cap, where it was never my mana that limited my spell selection but only throughput (and you always wanted the highest throughput). Although the current tier of content may be pushing in that direction, we also have weeks/months of gear more than the guilds that first did the content, so feeling it at this point is somewhat of a given.

As for the next tier of content, this current tier has somewhat renewed my faith in Blizzard’s ability to create interesting raid content. Yes, there are large hitting burst abilities, but much more of the challenge of the encounters is everyone handling the mechanics correctly. It’s much more difficult to carry people through fights, and as healers, we provide the amount of leeway that a raid can screw up. When my guild was learning H Nefarian, mana could be a constraint if someone swam out too far, or my other healer died, but you’re right, most of the wipes had nothing to do with mana but were about other mechanics (interrupters, why is it so hard to hit that button in time?).

Do you seriously still mash Chain Heal? I know that Disc priests get 60%+ of their healing from PW:Shield, but I felt that other classes/specs have a more diverse set of heals that made up their throughput. I know as a druid, WG/Rejuv make up large parts of the throughput, but Healing Touch and Lifebloom play much larger roles, and Regrowth/Swiftmend also contribute. For me, that makes playing a healer much more interesting and fun, is actually having spell selections that matter. If the mechanics of your class (I haven’t raided on a Resto shaman since ICC) are that limited (such as they somewhat are with mine), then that’s another problem entirely.

Basically, while I understand your concern, I think the balance between mana management/throughput has not slid that far into WotLK territory, and spell selection plays a large role in raiding as a healer.

Do you mind if I send you a PM about this? I’m interested in setting something up, but don’t really know how to pull it off.

I suppose that’s where our differences lie. Although I haven’t analyzed why exactly I have fun playing a healer, I know that I do, and a large part of that is feeling competent (even pretty good) at what I do (after the amount of time I’ve invested, I ought to be), but knowing I perform a vital role in my team. I have been in situations where I have had to lead (sometimes to extremes), but I prefer being able to just play within my role. I understand your point of view, but in many ways, no one pays any attention to healing unless something goes wrong. Having explicit assignments for that allows the group to pinpoint blame easier, and conversely, allows the player to know they’ve accomplished their job. But, at the end of the day, while I may be disappointed that my numbers were low and try to figure out why, I just want the bosses dead at my feet. Especially new ones that my guild has died to 60-100 times or so.