New WoW General Discussion Thread 6/8/10

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Heh Rik, it’s happened to my pally tank once. I’d just come back from a year off of WoW – before then I was tanking heroics just fine. I get H:HoS for my random heroic, and the healer immediately drops because I “only” had 30k health. For a WotLK classic heroic dungeon. Seriously? Needless to say, the run went without a hitch once we got a replacement healer.
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Dinged 80 on my paladin Saturday, I can only imagine the flack I’ll be getting once I start heroics. Hopefully I can grab some of the doggies to back me up for a few runs.

Speaking of FoS, I got it as my regular random dungeon yesterday. A little nervous since I still didn’t have any tanking trinkets and I was still using the BoA mace. The DPS attacked every target but the one I was attacking, even when I was marking, and to top it off the DPS warrior needed on the tanking mace from James Brown and won it. Didn’t even ask if he could roll for offspec. Not a happy paladin was I.

So I kidnapped… err asked for some volunteers in BDL to run some randoms and I ended up nabbing that mace along with The Black Heart and the tanking pants from ToC, sadly I’m still 2 points from being def capped for heroics.

In other news I dislike Halion, specifically phase two. Trash is fun, mini bosses are fun, Halion… not so much.

Our guild attempted 10 man Ruby Sanctum without much luck, I brought in my resto shaman to heal and then switched over to my resto druid since we didn’t have one in the raid and it seemed to work wonders for phase 2. Got him to phase 3 quite a few times but we couldn’t keep people alive in the physical realm so we called it.

Cut to last night where we had to pug in a tank who, for whatever reason, was not capable of keeping Halion aligned with the Orbs in Phase 2 and resulted in a wipe every single time the cutters were active and the other tank wasn’t much better. It seemed that there was some weird aggro things happening in the twilight realm as well. We’d all wait for the tank to go through, I’d go in and see the tank attacking Halion and drop an Earth Shield on him at which point Halion would go “'Sup Shaman!” and one shot me, it happened to our other healers as well. Blah. I wish I could have a chance to tank it, but it looks like I’ll be doing nothing but healing it at this rate.

One thing I noticed is how reliant people are on boss mods. Even with the dispeller calling people’s names when they had the curse didn’t help much. I found it hilarious at how many people got hit with fireballs/twilight cutter even though the game tells you what’s about to happen. It happened to me a few times as well during the first attempts.

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We had a tankadin in our guild ding 80 recently, as well. Her first few tanking experiences in the DF were pretty horrible, to the point where she’s going in as her ret spec and grabbing tanking gear via offspec rolls. Mostly, it’s the ICC25-geared DPS who don’t know how to dial back when there’s a lower geared tank in the group and then blaming the tank for their lack of aggro management.

Just dinged 80 on my warlock. I find being ranged dps to be a much less stressful and more lolfacerolly experience. Loving it :slight_smile:

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Yeah, my druid is normally a bear, but pretty much ever since the Dungeon Finder came out I’ve been pretending to be a boomkin, and using off-spec rolls/gathered badges to gear up the tank set. Unless I’m with my guildies, I don’t wanna tank.

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Really? I loved being in a new raid… I hadn’t realized how stale ICC was feeling until I zoned in to something different! :slight_smile:

You’re right about the mini-bosses and trash though - fun and (somewhat) different. Interrupting, separation pulls, even CC if you’re feeling frisky.

Yeah, a resto is very nice for the shadow realm - we finally got the kill last night after switching up the healing assignments for Phase 3 (sending the Pally to the Physical and keeping the Druid and Shaman in the Shadow).

That’s too bad… I had a lot of fun tanking in there, and caught on pretty quickly (if I can toot my own horn…).

It’s not likely to be easily PuGged for awhile though - between the “at least two or three steps above VoA” tanking required in the Shadow Realm and the “stop DPS when I say stop, no really stop, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP DPS” aspect of Phase 3…

Yeah, I’ve heard that there are aggro issues with the transition. We basically had me jump in the portal fist, pop a CD (helps that I can somewhat self-heal) and then call for everyone else after I had solid aggro. Never had any issues at all with threat bugs.

Hopefully you’ll get a chance to tank it soon - it’s quite a lot more fun than, say, Festergut, or the constant add-wrangling of VDW.

Yeah, this was the first boss fight I’ve done in awhile without DBM/DXE/etc… Made it even more fun, IMO - the boss emotes are more than enough to handle the Twilight Cutters (heh). I could see how it would make the marks tricky. Eventually the raid lead updated DBM and started putting marks on the targets - that cleaned up the “void zone in the raid” issues.

One neat trick I got from another raider (who has a DK) is to pop AMS if you get the mark (either one). It will prevent additional stacks so whenever it is dispelled the void zone will still be the smallest size possible. Tres cool.

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The preview models for troll and worgen druid forms are out.

The troll catforms, in particular, are hilariously awesome:

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It annoys me more than it should that the Worgen have a cat form.

I think I’d probably be a good Gilnean. Yay for superiority complexes!

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Yeah, with the exception of FoS, playing my mage in heroics is downright relaxing :smiley:

Pure win! I might even be tempted to try a druid again (for, like, the sixth time …)

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Grats on the dings, kills, achievements, and fancy new upgrades, all!

I took at look at your profile quickly this weekend. My only suggestions would be regarding glyphs.

For right now, I’d suggest replacing your Battle minor glyph with Charge instead. Optionally, you could also replace Command with Bloodrage (though I don’t even remember what the HP cost is for Bloodrage anymore).

Then, if you start raiding, I’d suggest swapping your major glyphs to Blocking/Shield Wall/Taunt or Blocking/Shield Wall/Last Stand. (If you get your T10 four-piece at any point, you’d want to switch your third minor glyph back to Commanding from Bloodrage, if you made the suggested switch.)

I second the suggestion of either the cloak or the trinket. IIRC, you won’t find an upgrade to the cloak out of Heroic ICC25, so that you’ll probably want to get first.

No, you seem to be confused. It wasn’t the *fire *tank dying on the transition to ph3–it’s the *shadow *tank dying on that transition.

Anyway, I think they got the 25-man kill down on Thursday night. So either we got more of our healers online or we sorted whatever the problem was.

:frowning: Best of luck finding a new home.

And what’choo gonna do 'bout it, huh? :smiley:

Any particular reason why? Unless you’re really strapped for cash, you should ideally be using the **Stamina + 2% Armor **meta (which I believe is the Austere Earthsiege), with a Nightmare Tear to activate the bonus (probably in your helm, if I recall the T9 socket bonuses correctly) and Solid Majestic Zircon in every other slot.

There’s very little that stuns you in endgame PvE (that can be reduced in duration), while there are many, many, many things that do physical damage–and armor is straight reduction to physical damage.

Not that I’ve heard about.

Hah HAH! I think it should be a requirement that any mobs that randomly aggro on you should be required to drop something nice for being so annoying–at the minimum, a green you can DE.

I dunno, with a name like Sagan, I kind of feel like you should be going after Algalon, so you can pick up “Starcaller” or “the Astral Walker.” :smiley:

5k really isn’t that much. Back in TBC, I was able to buy my 280% flying and mount for my main within maybe a week or two of when she hit 70… and that was (a) back when there was no discount; (b) when money was slightly harder to come by than it is now; and (c) with just one small loan from my GM (I think about 600g, which I paid back in something like two days).

From dailies alone, a level 80 character should be able to earn well over 300g per day.

Also, as I believe others have noted, you don’t need your epic flyer to train Cold Weather Flying. The speed increase is an optional bonus that can be trained at any time once you hit the level requirement–or not at all.

I don’t remember it being bad at the time, but I was a reasonably experienced tank (T4ish content) running with a healer who’d been a hardcore raider. Which can make a big difference.

Back when we were first getting to know each other and I was still learning to tank, I said something similar to my now-pocket healer, as a joke. That I thought was pretty clearly a joke. But he didn’t get. So, on the next pull, he let me die. :smiley:

I hate to rain on your parade, but just to be sure…

1.) You gave someone you just met 1/2 of the login info to your account? Do you have an Authenticator? Is your password something that could be easily guessed, is subject to a dictionary attack, etc.? Is it something related to your IRL identity that someone could figure out (city you live in, school you attended, mother’s maiden name, etc.)?

2.) Are you aware that your real name displays not only to your friend, but also to anyone else they have friended?

Did you turn it back off after the last patch? If not, then you do have the filter enabled. It turned back on for everyone, or at least everyone I know.

JC-exclusive gem patterns cost 2 tokens and epic cuts cost 4, and those are pretty much all you’ll need, other than some metas. IMO you’re better off just camping the AH for cheap Damaged Necklace or Titanium Powder, if you’re really in a rush to buy any particular cuts.

There is no opt-in. Everyone, everywhere, in WoW is already part of the RealID network. The only think you can currently choose is whether you display that RealID to anyone (by adding them as a RealID friend).

God only knows what the poor soul was busy doing when tanks running Naxx had maybe 27k. I don’t think most of us were hitting 30k until we were in full T7, or close to.

There *may *be (or may have been) a bug with that. I know at least one person in the raid last Wednesday wasn’t seeing any of the alerts. (And it was one of our RLs/officers, who wouldn’t lie about things like that and I’d at least *hope *would be able to figure out if an addon was interfering.)

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Ah, my mistake. That is confusing, though, since during that transition you’re all in the shadow realm, and so the healers that are staying in shouldn’t have to do anything different. Well, at least you all have it sorted out now. Good luck on Heroic attempts.

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I was thinking of a guild where everybody’s name was a variation on “Carl Sagan”. A really big guild called <Billions and Billions> :smiley:

(I had a teacher in HS who had a can of Campbell’s Chicken Noodle Soup on a shelf, with a little sign that just said, “Carl Sagan’s Primordial Soup”. When I asked him what that was about, he said, “Inside that can there are billions and billions of noodles.”)

Well son of a !@#$, it is back on!

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Glad I’ve saved TWO Damaged Necklaces so far.

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Speaking of gold (farming)…

Has anyone figured out what is the most optimum instance for a solo level 80 toon (in my case…my ret pally…decently geared) to run to maximize the gold intake vs. time spent in instance? Has anyone attempted to analyze this?

Parameters? No way I can solo an 80+instance, but I can kill most if not all trash mobs in 70s except maybe for certain (and last) bosses, but can totally solo a level 60 instance.

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Dailies? I get about 250-300g daily with my daily DF run and argent tourney dailies.

Otherwise, check your AH for old-world resources that seem to be selling well. Like, mageweave or wool cloth, maybe runecloth but I imagine that market’s pretty rock bottom with so many 80s doing Baron runs for the mount and such. If you’re a gatherer, the level 30-60 mats go for a good chunk too, but old world gathering can get tedious.

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In the other thread, I asked about characters for soloing 'cause I wanted to make money. It seemed like the best you could really do was making about 250g/hr from cloth drops and another 75g-ish from DE dust (shards are worthless). It really isn’t worth it. Strat is probably the best. This includes the paladin’s ability to solo stuff like MT and Kara. A ton of gold will straight up drop in Kara for you, but it just takes so long that you’re not spending your time effectively.

On my paladin, I made more money than I could spend (before level 65 anyway) just by selling tanking to DPS and taking advantage of AH pricing errors. This was on a barely-high pop near-balanced server, so the number of people looking at the AH wasn’t too bad. I found it much harder to play the AH after moving to Mal’Ganis, which is a full realm that’s 90% horde.

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  1. Enter Stratholme with empty bags.
  2. Kill everything.
  3. Leave with your bags full to the top with Runecloth.
  4. ??
  5. Profit!
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Old world mats command a high price simply because they do take so much time to gather. They’re not really that profitable on a per hour basis; I suspect you could make more gold per hour by mining straight Saronite and vendoring it all.

Playing the Auction House might be more beneficial, by buying mats and reselling as crafted items (or Titansteel if you have Mining). Most high-end stuff will turn a profit, and even if you’re only making a 20g profit over the mats, that adds up very quickly considering it doesn’t take much time to gather the mats over the AH.

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Heh, the WoW RealID->forums thread is up to over 13k posts in a single day. Hopefully, Blizzard gets the message that people take their online privacy seriously. One of my guildies also suggested that it may actually be illegal for them to disclose our real names to the public.

Anyway, an amusing, if disturbing blog response:

http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Americans-are-bad-at-games/Real-Names-on-the-Official-Forums-New-REAL-ID-function?gr_i_ni

I hope the poor guy doesn’t suffer too badly from it, although he did volunteer himself as bait.

ETA: I do dig his taste in music/movies/TV, though. He likes The Mars Volta and 30 Rock and Scott Pilgrim – stand up guy in my book! :smiley:

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That 1a2a3a shirt is sweet. I’m gonna call him and ask him where to get one.

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Just watch. Blizzard will soon be announcing their partnership with Lifelock.

It’s a stupid idea. A really stupid idea. I understand that they’re trying to combat GIFT, but there’s a reason people tend toward anonymity. Many reasons, in fact. Primarily, people are shitcocks and will happily screw with you if you make yourself known to them.

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Up to 30 frosts. Hit 50 triumphs yesterday and bought my 3rd piece of T9, got the Wrynn chest piece which I have enchanted for +22 Def and gemmed for 2 * + 30 stam. Will look at changing my meta gem tonight.