BTW Sarah Jeong has regretted those tweets, meaning that what you said in the OP was misleading right off the bat.
Things is, it has been debunked many times before and after 2005, and Sullivan is either naive or wilfully ignorant of that.
That, together with the Tweet from Sullivan that lead to the tweet from Sarah Jeong I have to conclude that this is a case of extreme projection coming from Sullivan.
My feelings about faux conservative outrage aside, I’ll say that I’m not sure she’s a good hire for the New York Times, which despite having a reputation for diversity of viewpoint, has established its own culture and style over the years. She’s apparently a talented, insightful journalist in her own right, and probably is a great fit for The Verge and a host of other outlets. But the New York Times is where people come to read Paul Krugman and Tom Friedman, who might occasionally let out an unadulterated tweet from time to time but not to this degree.
After diving into her twitter account for a time, I’d say that her explanation might not fit all the tweets but she sure has to read some nasty stuff thrown at her. More than a few of her tweets seem to fall under “I can play this game too, you bigoted shitheads”. Can’t blame her if that’s the case.
Unless I’ve missed something major, it’s much ado about nothing.
Of course, the people who claim that being offended is already reason enough for the offender to be punished will look at this differently. Once again, I have to say that they are wrong.
Btw, after reading a couple of her articles, I can safely say that I’m not a fan, but that’s a different topic.
I may be confused. Is Andrew Sullivan the gay British expat who lives in Massachusetts now?
More to the point: Am I remembering wrong, or is he one of those guys who thinks multiculturalism is “Cultural Marxism” because it challenges the supremacy of Anglo-Saxon capitalism, like Marxism, and two things that he fears are the same to him? I’m probably remembering wrong.
Anyway, racism provokes response. Turkish bigotry led to violent Greek and Armenian nationalism. Anglo-Saxon racism led to Louis Farrakhan and black separatism on this side of the Atlantic, and also to a certain angry kind of Irish identity various places. Apparently smug white people led to this woman making smart-ass remarks on Twitter. Which, meh.
But then, I think the world would be a better place if we were allowed to say that American Blacks, Jews, the Irish, and Anglo-Saxons are all bullshit. People are jerks. They–we–are still people.
Sarah Jeong is racist. She made hundreds of anti-white comments over about 2 years. Many of them predate the anusive tweets that she herself highlighted as examples of what she was allegedly responding to. And while some of the tweets were responses to the bigotry of others, many were just random hateful attacks on white people. Ockham’s razor is still a thing. She’s a racist.
By hiring her, the NYT has destroyed its own credibility on social issues among many white members of its audience. Why should a white person heed the editorial stance of an organisation which manifestly doesn’t have their best interests at heart.
The Old Grey Lady just took a shit with her pants on.
Agreed.
We’re either above this shit or we aren’t.
It stretches the bounds of credulity to claim that over a two-year period, you made hundreds of derogatory posts but that they were all in the name of satire and that you really didn’t mean a word of them.
I remain still not outraged but bemused at the hypocrisy.
Thank God somebody is finally speaking up for white men after all the oppression we’ve had to endure throughout history.
I have no problem with that. But if we’re genuinely trying to fight racism and sexism and not just scoring political points, then we should start at the top of the list and work our way down.
Which means that by the time we get to Sarah Jeong, Andrew Sullivan won’t be around to enjoy her comeuppance.
You’re really advancing the thesis that people should be shrugging off lesser instances of racism & sexism because there are bigger targets?
…do white people fit the definition of “marginalized” in America?
I didn’t make that claim. Anti-white racism is not symmetrical with racism against marginalized groups, since clearly the harm is not symmetrical. But anti-white racism is still something real and divisive.
I was pointing out that with racism the modern standard is zero tolerance, the standard is not to tolerate mild instances in order to save our energy for the worst. I’m pretty sure Jeong would not welcome a defense that she’s only slightly racist.
Here’s a question for you: if Hillary Clinton had tweeted what Roseanne tweeted, do you think people would have shrugged it off?
THAT would be a double standard. What you described in the part of your post that I snipped is not a double standard, it’s two different situations being judged differently on their merits.
No. I said we should oppose the biggest problems first; I never said the smaller problems should be shrugged off.
Are you advancing the opposite thesis that people should pass by the biggest problems of racism and sexism in order to focus on the smallest problems?
…you cited micro-aggression’s. Why did you cite micro-aggression’s? Was it because you didn’t understand what the word meant and you cited it to make yourself look smart?
“Zero tolerance” removes context. Zero tolerance in schools mean we punish both the bully as well as the bullied with exactly the same punishment. Zero tolerance is a bullshit concept.
The “modern standard” allows for context, allows for nuance.
Her defense is that she is not racist at all.
“Fuck white women lol” - Sarah Jeong.
No, I’m pointing out that “she’s only slightly racist, other racists are much worse” is not a sound defense. It’s not as though there’s some finite pool of energy that the human race can expend in not being racist. She should stop the divisive “white people” rhetoric.
…52% of white women voted for Donald Trump.
An entirely reasonable exclamation, in my humble opinion.
So some racism is fine? If it’s racism against the right target?
…what racism are you talking about?
Nice. For what it’s worth, microaggression is not written with a hyphen, and you don’t use an apostrophe with plurals. See, I made myself look smart again. And as I pointed out on the other thread, I also have my rugged good looks and sexy body to fall back on.