Graham said “He was born a Muslim” and you said “I expect [sic] he means he’s a black guy.” That, right there, is and overboard accusation. It has no connection and no basis whatsoever. Even when stereotyping, no American would think “Muslim” and conjure an image of a black person. They’d think of an Arab.
And when you say “serious” racism, do you mean “explicit” like a bone-in-nose photograph or do you mean “copious” as in “there’s a bunch of it”? Because while the former is, yes, unquestionable, the latter is a seriously overblown statement.
Now it’s easy to google up some racist signs, but when someone says “Muslim” and you hear “black”, yeah, that’s overboard.
Besides, there’s WAAAAY more hate for Muslims in the US than there is for blacks. Why don’t you translate the other way? Why, when someone says, “It’s because he’s [airquote] black[/airquote] ;);)”, don’t you go “Oh, yeah. He’s a Muslim.”?
You don’t translate that way because islamaphobia isn’t as disgraced as racism, so it doesn’t let you smear your opponents as effectively.
What the fuck do "Oil spil? Racists. War? Racists.’ even mean? Dude, it’s bad enough that your assertions don’t have a shred of evidence in support of them, it’s not even clear what you’re asserting. Take a breath and figure out what you’re trying to say, fer fuck’s sake.
Yes, they would. I’m talking about Obama specifically here.
Intense would be a better word than either of those.
Graham isn’t my opponent, he’s a nitwit who is saying something that is factually incorrect and nearly meaningless. “Opponent” makes it sound like he has ideas and a position an issue.
Well, he’s not doing a very good job, is he? I was supposed to be engulfed by hot large breasted South American twenty-somethings like three hours ago. I did the cat in the graveyard thing and damn it!
The statement didn’t say Obama consults with his religious advisor daily, it says he communicates with his religious advisor daily. If Obama sends out a daily all-staff memo, that would be a daily communications (assuming the religious advisor is on the White House satff).
“Regularly” could be daily, weekly, monthly, etc.
However, I will admit that I would prefer an atheist president, and I do find it troubling that Obama prays daily. And if it’s revealed that he’s lying about this, I will find that troubling too. What I would find most troubling of all, though, is to learn that he believes God answers his prayers and told him what to do through personal communication, as Bush claimed.
Barack Obama did not have a Muslim parent, and did not grow up in a Muslim country.
He is not from a Muslim family, so it would be impossible for him to say that.
No it isn’t. It isn’t like that at all. Barack Obama has never said or done anything to indicate that he has any hint of a Muslim background (once again, he did NOT have a Muslim parent or a Muslim family), or that there’s anything dishonest or artificial about his religious identification.
Since there is absolutely no other reason whatsoever to intimate that Barack Obama is secretly a Muslim, the racism is pretty much the most obvious motovation. It’s not like the teabaggers always even bother to conceal it.
Incidentally, there would be absolutely nothing wrong with it even if he WAS a Muslim, nut he isn’t, and even thinking maybe he’s a Muslim is just as nutty as thinking maybe the moon landing didn’t really happen. It’s a whackjob conspiracy theory without the slightest scintilla of real plausibility.
By the way, Chessic Sense, my point was not that everybody thinks black people are Muslims or Muslims are black. The point is that some idiots think Obama is a Muslim because he’s black. Because, like I said in that other post, he’s just not like them. He doesn’t look like them and his name is foreign, so it’s easy for them to believe something about him that is moronic. They don’t just think he’s a Muslim, remember. They think he’s a secret Muslim who is pretending to be a Christian. There can’t be too many people who never heard about his pastor, not to mention the other times he’s dealt with this issue. That’s a whole different kind of nutty. This isn’t about opposition to his policies. There are legit reasons to oppose probably everything he’s done. This is an irrational thing that borders on being a phobia.
Case is closed. Billy Grahams goofy kid came on TV saying that Obama’s dad was a Muslim and it was spread through Barrack by the seed of the father. Who can argue with that?
The secret Muslim crap is definitely racist. That doesn’t mean everything else is, but it’s deflection to try to pretend that criticism of one particular meme as racist is an allegation that all opposition of any kind to Obama is racist.
What part of “he did not have a Muslim parent” does your dumb ass not understand?
Listen carefully. His father was an ATHEIST. His MOTHER was an atheist. His STEPFATHER was an atheist. He did not “grow up in” or “spend his formative years in” a Muslim country. He lived in Indonesia between the ages of 6-10 years old. His father left him when he was two and he never had any contact with his father’s Muslim relatives growing up. While he lived in Indonesia he did not live with Muslims and did not practice Islam. He went to Christian and public schools while he was there. He did not have any “Muslim side” of his family. The only side of the family he ever had was his mother’s side, which raised him, raised him in the United States and raised him without any Islamic religious component whatsoever.
Even thinking that it’s possible is just as fucking retarded.
Well, Bill Maher did make fun of him shortly after Katrina hit, for flying over to Norleans to pray for the victims (and for the lens of the photo op, of course) instead of doing *something *to help them. Whether or not Maher is an odd fringe individual, I’ll leave to you
That being said, I admit to being tickled by the topic - if Obama doesn’t reiterate he’s a Christian over and over, Republicans say he’s a crypto Muslim. When he does come out as a Christian through a reassuring press release, he gets blasted some more.
Seriously, what can the guy do to please you folk ?