NFL 2025 Offseason Thread

Watt probably doesn’t want to be on the same team as Rodgers.

Darren Waller is unretiring, and will play for Miami.

Waller has been open about his struggles with addiction, his sobriety and how rehab following a 2017 overdose helped turn around his life. He has vowed to use his story to help others.

I wish him well.

(Especially because the Dolphins aren’t on Seattle’s schedule this year. :laughing:)

Wish granted.

After a rash of injuries takes several key players out early in the playoffs, Waller has the game of his life in the Superbowl, earning Superbowl MVP in a 38-7 rout over the Seahawks. (Their only score being a fluky kick return TD.)

/monkeypaw

I love that! The Seahawks make it to the Super Bowl!!!

You would think so, but ask me how often I look back fondly at the 2000 Giants. (I didn’t pull that “your only score is a kick return” out of nowhere.)

It’s not like the Seahawks have never been to the Superbowl before. What they haven’t done is stink up the joint. Once you get a trophy, it’s much easier to just erase from your mind any Superbowls where you shit the bed.

(They didn’t shit the bed in that first loss to the Steelers, right? My memory is they just got beat, greatly aided by a fluky 100-yard fumble return for a touchdown as the halftime clock expired. By contrast, in the premise above and for my 2000 Giants, the loss is/was humiliating.)

And some bad officiating, admitted to later by the referee, though not intentionally bad. The officials weren’t biased or anything, they just made a lot of mistakes that overwhelmingly penalized Seattle. And unlike many Seahawks fans I will concede that the game wasn’t stolen from them; even if there were no bad calls they’d still have lost because Pittsburgh just played better.

So not a shameful loss, but still a loss. Out of curiosity, now that you have a Lombardi trophy to celebrate, how often do you think back fondly on that loss to the Steelers?

Full disclosure, I do sometimes think about the 2000 Giants, but only because of the 41-0 shellacking they put on the Vikings in the conference championship. Which is promptly ruined by immediately thinking of all the shit-talking the Ravens did in the week before the Superbowl and then backing it up by handing my beloved Giants a curb stomping.

Not often, but I do remember being excited that they made it. I watched them as a little kid, grew up watching them, and they didn’t have a lot of success.

Didn’t happen against the Seahawks. Three years later, the Steelers scored on a 100-yard pick six against Arizona as the halftime clock expired. Instead of taking the lead, or at least a tie, the Cards were down 10 at halftime. Final score was 27-23, Steelers.

In the 2006 SB, Steelers beat Seattle 21-10. No defensive TDs were scored.

Ah, my bad. Thanks much for the correction.

Same division, at least.

As far as I know, this is completely irrelevant to this story. Those issues are from close to a decade ago and they have no bearing on his retirement and subsequent unretirement. That’s some awful journalism right there…unless this is a sneaky way to spill some as yet unreported tea.

That year, I went skiing on Super Bowl Sunday because it’s usually uncrowded. The bus back home stopped for a stretch break, and the game was on. I got to watch the consecutive kickoff returns and only that. I understand it was a dreadfully boring game otherwise (I missed the preceeding pick-6).

Thanks for reminding me of that game. Now i have to watch the helmet catch to purge that from my brain.

On YouTube, you can watch the entirety of Super Bowl XLIV, where the Colts lost to the Saints, but not Super Bowl XLI, where the Colts beat the Bears. So I sympathize.

Agreed, and the funny thing is 38-7 would make it a smaller margin of victory than super bowl XLVIII. (Seattle 43 - Denver 8))

Which isn’t even the worst blowout in SB history. That would be Super Bowl XXIV, when the Niners beat the Broncos 55-10.

Denver is on the losing end of three of the top five Super Bowl blowouts.

It isn’t, but it is the biggest blowout where the winner was considered the underdog.

Good point.

Just for grins, I asked Copilot how many times the underdog has won the Super Bowl. According to Copilot, underdogs are 32-36 in the big game. And 29-27-2 against the spread.

That can’t possibly be correct. That’s 68 Super Bowls. The 2026 edition is Super Bowl LX (60).

AI is wrong about almost everything.