NFL offseason discussion (up to but not including draft)

I would agree with that, despite the AFC South having a slightly better winning percentage.

When it comes to McNabb, you have to keep and start him one more season. It’s almost the equivalent to the Rex Grossman situation, though McNabb’s contract is insane. There’s no way Kolb is ready to go into camp as the starter this year, so give the keys to McNabb for 2008, and then give them to Kolb as soon as the season ends.

Doing it that way, if Kolb is the real deal you should be able to avoid any rookie mistakes out of him. Look at how Chad Pennington and Philip Rivers did in their first seasons after sitting on the bench for a couple years. There wasn’t a single rookie mistake between them.

If McNabb gets hurt, then obviously Kolb’s ascension gets accelerated. The bonus from that is if he shows no promise, you’ll know in time to do something about it next offseason.

I think Kolb will be good, but then again I thought Losman would be good in Buffalo and Griese would be good in Chicago so what the hell do I know.

Ha! She said you were small, but what does she know, she’s a Foreskins fan.

As a fan of one of your divisional rivals, I watch your team too and I totally disagree with you on Boller. I believe that one of the reasons Billick and his Ego were given the heave-ho is because of his blind insistence on playing Boller (prior to McNair, who gave you one good year) and his inability to build a respectable offense or develop a young QB.
Your defense has carried your team for quite awhile, and now it’s age is beginning to show and that has exposed your underachieving offense.
Now, I am not trying to talk smack here, I’m a Bengals fan and my team has sucked for so long we might as well be the Lions, but we still have some good players and are a defense away from another playoff run.
I think the Ravens and Bengals are in the same situation, but with their glaring issues on opposite sides of the ball.

Couple links here for the Giants fans.

This blog, written two days after the Superbowl, is an over-the-top gushing of how great the Superbowl was. Decent read for both Giants fans and Patriot haters. The latter should probably bail halfway into it.

This youtube video from the preseason is Coughlin’s response to Tiki Barber. heh. Beware of audible cursing.

(As a quick aside)There was once a Super Bowl that came down to a single yard. One more yard and a different team wins. There has been at least one Super Bowl that was won on a last second field goal. Even still, this was probably the best Super Bowl I have ever seen. And that comes from an Eagles fan, so it must have really been something special if I was willing to lower my standards enough to root for the Giants :smiley:

High praise indeed.

Quick nitpick: the Titans came one yard short of sending the game to overtime, not winning it. They lost by 7.

Exactly.

Depends on what your goal is. If you measure success by making the playoffs this year, then absolutely you keep McNabb. But if you measure success by winning a championship, then you have to ask yourself whether you see that happening with McNabb. If the answer is “no,” then ISTM that at that point you should prefer an unknown quantity.

I don’t see any reason to assume they’re all going to be busts; the Eagles draft history under Reid has been average or better. Actually, except for the problems with WRs and LBs, they’re as good as anybody. Give them three first day picks, and I’d be surprised if they don’t get two good players.

I’m not saying it’s an open-and-shut case. Ellis makes some good points about waiting one more year, but 1) I’m skeptical of the idea that guys who sit one year make mistakes as starters, but guys who sit for two don’t, and 2) one more less-than-awesome season (Especially if he gets hurt again) and the negative vibes around the situation will be so heavy that they will have very little leverage, and they’ll get nothing in return.

Of course, the Giants are the best argument for keeping him. The NFC is weak, and you don’t have to be a colossus to win it; and then once in the SB, anything can happen. the Jints were a mess this time last season, and on paper there’s at least a half-dozen more talented teams in the league. But they got hot and won when it counted. It’s not impossible to imagine the Eagles doing the same.

The NFC is not weak. If it were, the AFC would have had a winning record against them, which they did not. The two conferences tied at 32-32 in interconference play.

While I would quibble with your assessment of the Giants and the conference, I wholeheartedly endorse your premise that all you really have to do is get hot when it counts.

Here is a question… Chargers are about to let Tomlinsons backup Michael Turner go.

A> Who is going to end up paying him the big bucks (somebody will- the going thought seems to be that he’s a starter in backups clothing)

B> Who wants their team to pony up the money?

I’m just curious what the perception is out there, if there even is one.

As a secondary Jets fan, I’m drooling over the prospect of Michael “The Burner” Turner wearing Green, and would wholly endorse paying him big money. I’d much rather have Turner than Darren McFadden, who I see as the worst possible cross between Adrian Peterson and Reggie Bush.

That’s a good question. I bet lots of teams would be interested, but you’re right, he will be expensive.
The Bengals don’t do “that free agency thingie”, and will likely draft a RB if they feel they need one (which has worked out so well in recent times…Kijana Carter ((1st round, injured, out of NFL)), Chris Perry ((1st rounder, jokingly referred to by many as “Chris Perrenially Injured”)), Kenny Irons ((2nd round, torn ACL)) ).
He won’t end up here, but it would be nice to replace the aging Rudi Johnson.

…“The worst possible cross between Adrian Peterson and Reggie Bush”? How’s that a bad combination under any means?

An oft injured running back with more speed than power? You seriously can’t see a problem there? In a league where RB’s are over the hill by 30.

Maybe they’d be so bad we’d have to bring the Cardinals back. :stuck_out_tongue:

They’re not really all that often injured. Hell, the worst combination of two very good running backs can’t be bad. I just don’t get the comparison, that’s all.

Reggie Bush is not a very good running back at the NFL level; he is average at best.

Hence, the point is that Ellis sees an overhyped back who isn’t that good and is injury-prone to boot.

Not sure I agree in this case, but RBs with injury histories are a very risky investment.

Thank you for making this Browns fan’s day just a little bit merrier.

There are some draft analysts that think Mendenhall will be a better pro back than McFadden due to body size/structure.

I think Jonathan Stewart is going to be the best back this year. He was the MVP of that Oregon Ducks squad, in my opinion.

furt, I get what he was trying to say, but I just think the allusion was a little unwieldy.

You get to play the Cardinals in the divisional rotation this year. I expect the Cards to beat the Eagles and Skins and be very competitive against the Giants and Cowboys.